MaCe 3 Report post Posted June 26, 2008 After some findings, PLC downlight cannot be use with electronic balast. Most PLC light bulb have only 2 pins and the starter is builtin to the PLC bulb. There are 4 pin PLC bulb but there are rare and much more expensive that the normal 2 pin PLC light bulb. On top of that, the light holder need to have 4 wires connected to the 4 pins PLC light. So I decided to find light holder to horizontal screw type. The problem is most shop carried square downlight and not much round type nowdays. Some shop say it is not possible to have screw type in horizon layout. I managed to find one shop in Jln Besar that have a similar size (round) downlight as mine. The sales guy is willing to modified the PLC to screw in holder (E27). Tested it with one of these modified downlight and it is working for me. Now the plan is to change the rest of my magnetic balast with PLC downlights to the builin electronic balast E27 downlight. alright - glad to know another DIY-er Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bornfree 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2008 I have measured the power consumption with magnetic vs electronic ballast here is my result: Magnetek 18W Magnetic ballast with 20W circular FL lamp Watt measured : 30W Philips 18W Electronic ballast with 20W circular FL lamp Watts measured: 22W How or rather what did you use to measure the difference in power consumption between Magnetic ballast & Electronic ballast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nts 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2008 How or rather what did you use to measure the difference in power consumption between Magnetic ballast & Electronic ballast? I got myself a meter similar to this product called Kill-a-watt http://the-gadgeteer.com/review/kill_a_wat..._monitor_review This device help me to measure the actual watts use. I have to wire my lights up using to a 3 pin plug to measure it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted June 27, 2008 a old bird engineer once told me - any electrical appliance that is UNSTABLE, flickering, inconsistent - not having a constant smooth flow of electricity EQUALs to "eat electricity". in this case - magnetic ballast. in the past when electricity is cheap - of cos it means nothing for just some 0.00x cents per day but now when you add up the savings PER YEAR...no joking matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applefreak 1 Report post Posted June 27, 2008 mace, can help ask your wife which brand of thermal cooker she using now that electricity price is going up (AGAIN!) really got to get one of that liao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted June 27, 2008 mace, can help ask your wife which brand of thermal cooker she using now that electricity price is going up (AGAIN!) really got to get one of that liao wife said BO brand type..... this mth our bill $120+ (4 adults). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fifi 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2008 tink 120+ considered quite ok... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applefreak 1 Report post Posted June 27, 2008 wife said BO brand type..... this mth our bill $120+ (4 adults). sure got brand one bah endo or tiger nia mah me heard tiger very good but went to check it out feels very filmsy leh :no: my bill hoevering around $180 for 5 adults so yours is quite good liao wor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LinDa 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2008 my bill hoevering around $180 for 5 adults so yours is quite good liao wor ya, i is 2 adults and 1 kid, $120 oso le. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted June 28, 2008 sure got brand one bah endo or tiger nia mah me heard tiger very good but went to check it out feels very filmsy leh :no: my bill hoevering around $180 for 5 adults so yours is quite good liao wor really BO brand NOT B&O - Bang and Ofulsen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applefreak 1 Report post Posted June 28, 2008 really BO brand NOT B&O - Bang and Ofulsen then can help ask where to buy really need to get one asap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted June 28, 2008 then can help ask where to buy really need to get one asap just now flip it over and saw the scary words - Made in Bangladesh..... really a BO brand... i remember was a housewarming gift given by wife's relatives. tink 120+ considered quite ok... the culprit is my old PC + last mth super hot weather(on aircon)......or else wont be more than $100. ya, i is 2 adults and 1 kid, $120 oso le. hmm...aircon always on? anyway - any amount around or below $150 is considered good. my colleague 3 room = $220 a mth... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applefreak 1 Report post Posted June 29, 2008 sigh guess i really have to continue my search to THE thermal pot anyone got any recommendation??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fifi 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2008 the culprit is my old PC + last mth super hot weather(on aircon)......or else wont be more than $100. hmm...aircon always on? anyway - any amount around or below $150 is considered good. my colleague 3 room = $220 a mth... for us, 3.5 adults + 1 toddler + 1 dog ~ $170 to $180 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applefreak 1 Report post Posted June 29, 2008 fifi, how come got 3.5 adults one??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
