SimeiSeeker 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2007 I found out the cabling in my house, they connect it in series, for the one in black (N).i have 2 lights and 1 fan in the room, tat time when i dismantle the fan and disconnected the cable, the other 2 lights power also been cut off. At fist 1 tot the circuit breaker trip, but is not true, the circuit breaker is on, and after checking i found the cable from where I dismantle the fan have 2 blacks cables, after join them toghether, my the other 2 lights is working fine.Just wonder is it the right way to run the cabling..My thought it shouldn;t affect other lighting when one is disconnected..Anyone have the same experience? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted August 6, 2007 I found out the cabling in my house, they connect it in series, for the one in black (N).i have 2 lights and 1 fan in the room, tat time when i dismantle the fan and disconnected the cable, the other 2 lights power also been cut off. At fist 1 tot the circuit breaker trip, but is not true, the circuit breaker is on, and after checking i found the cable from where I dismantle the fan have 2 blacks cables, after join them toghether, my the other 2 lights is working fine.Just wonder is it the right way to run the cabling..My thought it shouldn;t affect other lighting when one is disconnected..Anyone have the same experience? sounds like the electrician's workmanship is as good as me(wiring dumbo)..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genesis 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2007 I found out the cabling in my house, they connect it in series, for the one in black (N).i have 2 lights and 1 fan in the room, tat time when i dismantle the fan and disconnected the cable, the other 2 lights power also been cut off. At fist 1 tot the circuit breaker trip, but is not true, the circuit breaker is on, and after checking i found the cable from where I dismantle the fan have 2 blacks cables, after join them toghether, my the other 2 lights is working fine.Just wonder is it the right way to run the cabling..My thought it shouldn;t affect other lighting when one is disconnected..Anyone have the same experience? Your's definitely not right! if just lighting alone then it should be normal. However, if you want to go for QC with PUB then you've be bare the cost. You can blacklist this guys whom installed for you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimeiSeeker 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2007 my old house also cabling in this manner, i think most of the technician connect it in this way, dunno by purpose or to save cost and work.if we nvr go and dismantle it, it will always work perfectly without notice, only when we dismantle we will c this type of connection...curious.....are all those electrician a qualified electrician? If not qualified can the do cabling as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted August 6, 2007 my old house also cabling in this manner, i think most of the technician connect it in this way, dunno by purpose or to save cost and work.if we nvr go and dismantle it, it will always work perfectly without notice, only when we dismantle we will c this type of connection...curious.....are all those electrician a qualified electrician? If not qualified can the do cabling as well?4 kinds of electricians1) a Jack of alltrades who came out to venture on his own before "graduating" from his Tao chew.2) qualified electrical tao chew who just wants to cut cost.3) qualified electrical tao chew who does things professionally but lacks the knowledge of latest technology4) qualified electrical tao chew who is that perfect electrician armed with perfect workmanship + knowledge of latest electrical industry practice, everyone is looking for but couldnt find. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimeiSeeker 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2007 how we work abt this, if we found out this type of workmanship.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted August 6, 2007 how we work abt this, if we found out this type of workmanship....dont think they will re-run the wires all over again after being paid?can try talking to contractor/ID.... or go CASE liao. !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brainstorm 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2007 I found out the cabling in my house, they connect it in series, for the one in black (N).i have 2 lights and 1 fan in the room, tat time when i dismantle the fan and disconnected the cable, the other 2 lights power also been cut off. At fist 1 tot the circuit breaker trip, but is not true, the circuit breaker is on, and after checking i found the cable from where I dismantle the fan have 2 blacks cables, after join them toghether, my the other 2 lights is working fine.Just wonder is it the right way to run the cabling..My thought it shouldn;t affect other lighting when one is disconnected..Anyone have the same experience? This is the standard way of wiring for all flats. Electrical points are cluster in groups, each group is control by one breaker in the Main breaker box. Within the group, they not only share the black (N) wire, they also share the red (L) and green (E) wires. If all electrical points have wires straight from the breaker, you will need a very big white wire trucking to house all the wires coming out from the breaker. Its normal, don't worry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marketvgk 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2007 I haven't the faintest idea as to what the procedure of connecting the load in a flat is.All I no is that if the load is inductive then the voltage leads the current as per phasors. When you have an inductive load the voltage leads where as in case of capacitive load the current leads.The light bulbs are inductive loads that means the voltage is leading where as the fan is a capacitive load.As per the circuit diagram the voltage loads should be connected in parallel with each other and then the parallel combination is to be connected in series with the fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warrior88 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2007 I haven't the faintest idea as to what the procedure of connecting the load in a flat is.All I no is that if the load is inductive then the voltage leads the current as per phasors. When you have an inductive load the voltage leads where as in case of capacitive load the current leads.The light bulbs are inductive loads that means the voltage is leading where as the fan is a capacitive load.As per the circuit diagram the voltage loads should be connected in parallel with each other and then the parallel combination is to be connected in series with the fan.Very Chim .... originally I am on series, now I parallel liao.In school study, now forget liao ...But kinda agree with Bro Brainstorm version.Just don't add more load in one area, this will cause overload & trip the circuit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marketvgk 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2007 Very Chim .... originally I am on series, now I parallel liao.In school study, now forget liao ...But kinda agree with Bro Brainstorm version.Just don't add more load in one area, this will cause overload & trip the circuit.Well I didn't get what you were trying to say.Tell me something do you know why does a circuit breaker exactly trips??Ok tell me what is a circuit breaker?You qouted my reply .Now I ask you for an explanation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brainstorm 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2007 Well I didn't get what you were trying to say.Tell me something do you know why does a circuit breaker exactly trips??Ok tell me what is a circuit breaker?You qouted my reply .Now I ask you for an explanation.hmm... why so hostile? Actually all the power point is still in parallel connection, not in series. They just parallel all the power point by "hopping" the wires from point to point, so you see it like series, if you don't believe, try drawing your house wiring circuit out, then simplify the schematic, you will see that its parallel. If its in series, you will need to on all the lights and fans together. Cos if you off anyone of them, you will break the circuit.... cannot be right? So don't worry. Its parallel. For your case, because you disconnect one of the "hopping" wire and effectively you disconnect all the rest of the parallel power point tapping from this "hop". Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites