Peter_Chua 0 Report post Posted July 17, 2008 Can anyone help me? I'm a noob about aircons but i have read some from this forum but still not quite sure. I'm living in a hdb flat @ Bishan 3-rm 64sq.m I'm actually considering in getting a Toshiba Invertor Sys-3 (1 X Living room, 1 X Masterbed room & 1 X Study room) So what must i look out for? What copper pipe to use? Which brand & size for the Insulator? (Hope i get it spell right) What BTU is enough? Do they normally charge to uninstall existing aircon before the new? How much? Please advise me.. thank you! Peter Anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
perpentual 0 Report post Posted July 18, 2008 I paid $3,688 for Mitsubishi Inverter System 4 (Starmex) And change to better copper pipings... They installed until my pipings and trunkings all NOT the same as per discussed! Finally had a solution, but I had to pay $100 to another contractor for their stupid mistake! Will deduct when the final payment comes.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donut88 1 Report post Posted July 19, 2008 Anyone? its good that u getting toshiba. for 3 room, u can get 2 x 9BTU and 1 x 12BTU. this is already good enough for 3 room. i used to stay in 3 room last time and my hall air con was only 9k BTU, but its already good enough. i got no complaints. dun get too worried abt those piping or insulations. Toshiba is under Carrier company in singapore. so their pipings requirement are already by Carrier company. you are in safe hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yokoyoko 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2008 anyone using fujitsu sys 3 inverter aircon? any feedbacks? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSA 0 Report post Posted July 20, 2008 Any owners of premises who want to install air-conditioning units must engage trained installers to do so. This will ensure that the work is being properly carried out. Stainless steel bracket must be used to support the air-conditioning units in one of the standard methods stipulated in the Building Control Regulations. Upon completion of the installation, the installer will submit the installation report to HDB if the air-conditioning unit is installed in an HDB flat or BCA if it is installed in a non-HDB flat. Home | Building Control & Management | Legislation Of Air-Conditioning Supports Air-Conditioning Unit Installation/Retrofitting Report Upon completion of the installation works, the installer is required to submit the installation/retrofitting form to BCA for record. If the air-conditioning units are installed in private properties, use Form AC-01. If the air-conditioning units are installed in HDB flats, use Form AC-02. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starscream 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 This may have been discussed before. We are being proposed to install Daikin Inverter System 3 but using R22 gas. Is that okay for the foreseeable future? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spidey 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 its good that u getting toshiba. for 3 room, u can get 2 x 9BTU and 1 x 12BTU. this is already good enough for 3 room. i used to stay in 3 room last time and my hall air con was only 9k BTU, but its already good enough. i got no complaints. dun get too worried abt those piping or insulations. Toshiba is under Carrier company in singapore. so their pipings requirement are already by Carrier company. you are in safe hands. I got the same specifications for Toshiba (2x 9BTU for MBR/BR1 and 1 x 12BTU for living room), GC salesman was good in explaining why Toshiba is good. I also upgraded the copper wire, took the 5 year warranty and 2 year service Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter_Chua 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) I got the same specifications for Toshiba (2x 9BTU for MBR/BR1 and 1 x 12BTU for living room), GC salesman was good in explaining why Toshiba is good. I also upgraded the copper wire, took the 5 year warranty and 2 year service May i know how much did you paid? I think 2X 9k BTU is enough for 2 rooms but as for my Living room i'm still not sure.. cause have already hacked the kitchen wall so actually the measurement will be (according what is written on my floorplan) HDB 3-rms 1)Living Rm + Kitchen 11000(Length) 3200(Breadth) - ??? 2)Masterbed Rm 4500(Length) 2900(Breadth) - 9000BTU 3)Study Rm 4200(Length) 2900(Breadth) - 9000BTU Insulator might want to use Armaflex 1/2 inch Copperpipe Grade 23 PVC Drainage pipe 16mm All this ok? I'm still not sure about this. Edited July 21, 2008 by Peter_Chua Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sohzai 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Hi all... I was quoted Mitsubishi non inverter for 2.2k, fujitsu inverter (new model) for 2.55k All come with upgrade of piping to 1/2 inch, r410 gas and gst included for system 3, am also considering asking about toshiba... You guys got any experiece with my options? Edited July 22, 2008 by sohzai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy_sg_123 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Hi all... I was quoted Mitsubishi non inverter for 2.2k, fujitsu inverter (new model) for 2.55k All come with upgrade of piping to 1/2 inch, r410 gas and gst included for system 3, am also considering asking about toshiba... You guys got any experiece with my options? Hi, I got my Mti system 3 (non-inverter) @ $2108 (incl GST). Copper 22, 1/2 inch insulation & bracklet. I got it fm Gain City@IMM. u? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sohzai 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Hi, I got my Mti system 3 (non-inverter) @ $2108 (incl GST). Copper 22, 1/2 inch insulation & bracklet. I got it fm Gain City@IMM. u? Hi..mine is without bracket because i have a ledge for aircon. However, may I know if yours is using the r22 gas or r410 gas? I got my quote from hong tar yesterday.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy_sg_123 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Hi..mine is without bracket because i have a ledge for aircon. However, may I know if yours is using the r22 gas or r410 gas? I got my quote from hong tar yesterday.... I never ask abt the gas leh...which is better? I think Hong Har is more expensive compared to GC. Dun forget, my price include the bracklet which u do not need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sohzai 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 I never ask abt the gas leh...which is better? I think Hong Har is more expensive compared to GC. Dun forget, my price include the bracklet which u do not need. From what I know, the r22 gas will be phased out by 2016, i.e, no more produced. So I chose the r410 gas which was supposed to be more efficient and environment friendly. Most importantly, it's going to be the gas that is replacing r22 now. Price difference of using r22 is 100 less for my case. Yah...i know Hong Tar is slightly above market price. But I have not heard of complains from people who used their services yet, plus my ID has been liasing with them, thus I believe things will be smoother... My only concern now is which model would serve me better... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy_sg_123 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2008 From what I know, the r22 gas will be phased out by 2016, i.e, no more produced. So I chose the r410 gas which was supposed to be more efficient and environment friendly. Most importantly, it's going to be the gas that is replacing r22 now. Price difference of using r22 is 100 less for my case. Yah...i know Hong Tar is slightly above market price. But I have not heard of complains from people who used their services yet, plus my ID has been liasing with them, thus I believe things will be smoother... My only concern now is which model would serve me better... The price quoted by Hong Tar is including r410 gas? I have checked my invoice, the quotation is meant for r22 gas. u mean r22 will be phasing out in 8 yrs time? wat happen if we are currently using r22 gas? pls enlighten me. thks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sohzai 0 Report post Posted July 23, 2008 The price quoted by Hong Tar is including r410 gas? I have checked my invoice, the quotation is meant for r22 gas. u mean r22 will be phasing out in 8 yrs time? wat happen if we are currently using r22 gas? pls enlighten me. thks! Yupz..My quote is for r410 gas. Today have just decided to take the fujitsu inverter though. That is what I was told my hong tar staff. they told me if I need to top up r22 gas after 2016, it might not be available... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites