Small Den For Me And My Llittle Girl

[lifestyle 0]

Hi fteocs,

The pricing is more or less around that range for an ID company cos there is a lot of carpentry and changes. Just make sure you get the good quality materials and better brand of solid top.

The electrical is also quite reasonable.

If you want to save cost then have less carpentry and get loose items from shops.

Cheers

Hi Lifestyle, the one you looked at is from BE concept...havent spoken to anyone just send in for quote, so not much detail, see the price .......

Take a look at the second one, more ex...from Home Guide

Cheers

Edited July 25, 2007 by lifestyle

[fteocs 0]

Hi fteocs,

The pricing is more or less around that range for an ID company cos there is a lot of carpentry and changes. Just make sure you get the good quality materials and better brand of solid top.

The electrical is also quite reasonable.

If you want to save cost then have less carpentry and get loose items from shops.

Cheers

Hmm, but a little apprehensive on how much can bring about 10-12k in quality...Earnest quote is around $45 to $48 (though not finalized) and Earnest suppose to be a reputable ID with good quality...so kind of puzzle, I was having a range of +/- 3 to 5 k, on materials, workmanship, blar blar, but not 10 to 20 k diff, I suppose if the ID firm do not have their own fabrication faciilty and sub out alot of their work and of course agreement between ID and subcon...makes a big deal

By the way have anyone heard of LG solid surface....LG as in the LG for aircon, fridge, etc. They do have solid surface I saw they website, just wonder what kind of range are they in.

Cheers

Edited July 25, 2007 by fteocs

[applefreak 1]

if i'm not wrong the LG solid surface is slightly more expensive than dupont solid surface. at least that's what EI quoted me. In the end i went for granite countertop coz it's cheaper than both

[lifestyle 0]

Last time (a few years back) Granite was more expensive, guess the popularity of solid top and wider range of materials & colors resulted in the reverse cost.

Granite definitely more harder material so can last longer and can be quite nice if the color can match nicely.

More information can be found in GnM Blog HERE

if i'm not wrong the LG solid surface is slightly more expensive than dupont solid surface. at least that's what EI quoted me. In the end i went for granite countertop coz it's cheaper than both

[xlan 0]

mm.. i see y ur quotation so much more than mine le.. cos u hv so many changes n hackings n carpentry works... moreover.. i'm not doing both toilets.. n i dun hv much built in carpentry.. kitchen smaller as well.. n my electrical pts n sand not incl in quotation yet cos hvn't get the keys to my unit yet.. ID can't quote me w/o actual inspection of the unit..

1 of colleague was frm the renov industry b4.. he recomm LG solid top as well.. he using it in his new home too.. for the past 1yr+ they cook as well n it still looks s brand new.. highly recomm by him.. he told me dupont corian is v expensive for the similar quality as LG ones.. if get the cheaper range frm corian.. the quality sucks a big time s compare to LG.. so for the similar quality level.. LG is still much cheaper than dupont corian..

but Lance quoted me w/ a local brand "Bellus"... my colleague ask me to change to LG.. bargain with Lance.. try to get LG.. see how much i need to top up..

[Angelwrath 0]

mm.. i see y ur quotation so much more than mine le.. cos u hv so many changes n hackings n carpentry works... moreover.. i'm not doing both toilets.. n i dun hv much built in carpentry.. kitchen smaller as well.. n my electrical pts n sand not incl in quotation yet cos hvn't get the keys to my unit yet.. ID can't quote me w/o actual inspection of the unit..

1 of colleague was frm the renov industry b4.. he recomm LG solid top as well.. he using it in his new home too.. for the past 1yr+ they cook as well n it still looks s brand new.. highly recomm by him.. he told me dupont corian is v expensive for the similar quality as LG ones.. if get the cheaper range frm corian.. the quality sucks a big time s compare to LG.. so for the similar quality level.. LG is still much cheaper than dupont corian..

but Lance quoted me w/ a local brand "Bellus"... my colleague ask me to change to LG.. bargain with Lance.. try to get LG.. see how much i need to top up..

hmm xlan, ur's is a new flat. dont need to hack mah. fteocs's a resale of cos more ex.

but $50k in renovation and $3k GST abit hard to swallow.

[xlan 0]

hmm xlan, ur's is a new flat. dont need to hack mah. fteocs's a resale of cos more ex.

but $50k in renovation and $3k GST abit hard to swallow.

ya .. agree.. it is indeed..

[fteocs 0]

One point to note that you guys may have missed out due to the lengthy list, is that There is no wardrobe for MBR that most people do, if include....even more ex.

Still need to spend close to $40 to $45k on purchases, everything from the usual appliances, aircon, lightings, furniture and of course the most ex is my sound system and speakers upgrade.

So trying to strike a balance.

For the LG top...hmm a cheaper quote for all the same thing that uses LG Top is about $45k and willing to do drawing for some carpentry working with no obligation...will get to see them next week.

I believe company like Home Guide do have great design and most definitely built in cost to the quote, but for my case 80% of the design is from myself, so don't really need full ID services, but still need some professional opinions

Thanks for all your input.

Cheers

[applefreak 1]

actually why dun you try to get a quote from Ho Bee?

since you have the design and they have the expertise?

they are the one who provided the cheaper-than-solid-surface granite countertop

[lifestyle 0]

Oh..no master bedroom wardrobe... then you should try to find out how much is per foot run on cabinet & wardrobes. If not too far from the market rate then next you need to decide what materials (be in laminate or more expensive veneer).

Off course it would be best to custom made (rather than off the shelf products) your carpentry if you like to have everything fit exactly to your rooms. This is why it is more expensive.

Yes, you still need to have extra $$ for the furnitures & appliances.

Another cheaper way is that you try to source a good & reliable contractor to save cost if you know what you want. But it will definitely will take more time for you to arrange & coordinate everything. So time is money also in that respect.

I do not know how is the pricing of your ID company compares to the more established ID name. Have you seen their project workmanship? If it is very good and above average then it may worth the extra cost if you are looking for great design & workmanship. If so-so only then you can look for more cheaper ID.

ID services really help you to managed all the differenent sub-cond unit doing various part of the project. They will be responsible if anything goes wrong.

Hope this help.

One point to note that you guys may have missed out due to the lengthy list, is that There is no wardrobe for MBR that most people do, if include....even more ex.

Still need to spend close to $40 to $45k on purchases, everything from the usual appliances, aircon, lightings, furniture and of course the most ex is my sound system and speakers upgrade.

So trying to strike a balance.

For the LG top...hmm a cheaper quote for all the same thing that uses LG Top is about $45k and willing to do drawing for some carpentry working with no obligation...will get to see them next week.

I believe company like Home Guide do have great design and most definitely built in cost to the quote, but for my case 80% of the design is from myself, so don't really need full ID services, but still need some professional opinions

Thanks for all your input.

Cheers

[applefreak 1]

actually Ho Bee also do all the cordination

just that they dun provide fancy designs

have left my renovation to them, all i need to do is provide how i want everything to look

[greentea 0]

wow impressive man.. you can go into so much detail??? you can open shop become id liao.

can't wait to see your reno.. post pic k.

[fteocs 0]

Receive a revise quote from Exxxxxx Intxxxxxx

DESCRIPTION QTY AMOUNT

1 KITCHEN & 2 BATHROOM OVERHAUL PACKAGE ( HDB ) $12,000.00

1. To provide interior design services with proposed layout plan.

2. To provide perspective drawing on carpentry works.

3. Material & colour scheme proposals.

4. Arrangement for PUB gas pipe installation and connection.

5. 2 years warranty for workmanship.

6. Submission to HDB for approval.

7. Final inspection on site.

8. Demolish kitchen floor tiles.

9. Demolish kitchen wall tiles.

10. Demolish 2 bathroom floor tiles.

11. Demolish 2 bathroom wall tiles.

12. Dismantle 2 bathroom sanitary fixtures & plumbing.

13. Demolish stove support & dismantle kitchen cabinet.

14. Supply and lay matt homogeneous / ceramic floor tiles for kitchen. ( Size: 300mm x 300mm )

15. Supply and lay matt homogeneous / ceramic floor tiles for 2 bathrooms. ( Size: 300mm x 300mm )

16. Supply and lay porcelain wall tiles for kitchen. ( No tiles behind cabinet; Size: 250mm x 330mm )

17. Supply and lay porcelain wall tiles for 2 bathrooms. (Size: 250mm x 330mm )

18. Lay waterproofing for kitchen.

19. Lay waterproofing for 2 bathrooms.

20. Construct 50mm washing machine base with tiles.

21. Construct 50mm fridge base with tiles.

22. Construct 50mm cabinet base with tiles.

23. Supply and install aluminum rubbish bin. -$150.00

24. Supply and install kitchen & 2 bathroom water pipes to stainless steel pipes. ( cold water )

25. Acid washing for new flooring.

26. Install WC bowl for 2 bathrooms.

27. Install basin for 2 bathrooms.

28. Install basin tap for 2 bathrooms.

29. Install instant water heater for 2 bathrooms.

30. Install kitchen sink tap.

31. Supply and install aluminum bi-fold door for 2 bathrooms.

DESCRIPTION QTY

32. Design, fabricate and install 20 ft designers' laminate-finished

Kitchen Cabinet Including :

* Laminated doors with ABS trim.

* 1 pair Wooden-framed glass door

* Internal PVC cherry finish

* Stainless Steel Dish Rack and Drainer.

* Imported Designer's Handles.

* 1 no. of Cutlery Tray

FOC - Turbo T6309RSS / LSS Built-in/hob

FOC - Turbo S602 - 90SS Cooker Hood

Note: All fittings, eg. Heater, water closet, washing basin, mixers and accessories are exclusive.

2 ADDITIONAL ITEMS

1 DEMOLITION

A To hack existing floor tiles and skirting :- Lump sum $1,200.00

Living

Dining

Store

2 Bedroom

B To demolish existing wall :-

Store Lump sum $350.00

Between Bedroom 2 & Living Lump sum $200.00

* Subject to HDB approval

C To dismantle existing door and door frames :- Lump sum FOC

Bedroom 2

Store

2 WET WORK

A To make good wall due to demolition :- Lump sum $400.00

Store

Between Bedroom 2 & Living

B To construct full-height new hollow block wall :-

New store (inclusive doorway with lintal) Lump sum $1,200.00

Between Bedroom 2 & Living (inclusive doorway with lintal) Lump sum $800.00

Kitchen entrance (inclusive doorway with lintal) Lump sum $450.00

C To construct shower kerbs :- 1 no $100.00

Master Bath

DESCRIPTION QTY

3 FLOOR

A To supply and lay polished homogeneous tiles w/ skirting :- Lump sum $4,500.00

Size : 600mm x 600mm

Living

Dining

Store

2 Bedroom

B To supply and lay polished homogeneous tiles :- Lump sum $150.00

Entrance staircase

4 WALL

A To supply and install gypsum board wall :- Lump sum $400.00

Living (2 side)

B To extend gypsum board wall :- Lump sum $200.00

Foyer side

C To plaster wall and ceiling with ultra-hard :- Lump sum $1,700.00

Whole house

NB : Additional cost for existing rock stone surface

5 CEILING

A To supply and install L-box light holder:- Lump sum $2,000.00

Living

Dining

Master Bedroom ( 2-row )

B To supply and intall simple cornices:- Lump sum Inclusive

Bedroom 2

C To supply and install false ceiling :- Lump sum Inclusive

Bedroom pasageway

6 DOOR

A To supply and installl wrought iron gate :- 1 no $380.00

Main entrance

B To supply and install designer main door :- (non-fire rated) 1 no $480.00

Main entrance

C To supply and install wooden door frame :- 2 nos $360.00

Bedroom 2

Store

DESCRIPTION QTY

D Design and install sliding tempered glass door 1 no $750.00

Kitchen entrance

E To supply and install designer doors :- 3 nos $840.00

Store

2 Bedroom

* All doors inclusive of lock set

7 WINDOW ( white powder anodized)

A To supply and install alum window grilles :- Lump sum $700.00

Whole house

B To supply and install alum slidiing window w/tinted glass :- Lump sum $1,350.00

Whole house

C To supply and install alum louver window :-

Master Bath Lump sum $240.00

Common Bath Lump sum $120.00

8 ELECTRICAL

A 3-Room Electrical Re-Wiring Package Lump sum $1,800.00

- 10 x Light wiring & points

- 1 no. water heater point

- 2 nos TV points

- 1 no. air-con point

- 2 nos Tel. Points

- 1 no. MCB board

- Installation of lights

- 7 nos. double points

- 3 nos. single points

- 2 sets boarding earth

B Additional item

a 2 way switch 4 nos $132.00

b Dimmer switch 2 nos $60.00

c TV point 1 no $95.00

d Heater point 1 no $90.00

e Fan point 1 no $33.00

f Install Fan 1 no $38.00

g Single power point 15 nos $780.00

h Speaker point 2 nos $40.00

i Extra lighting points 10 nos $430.00

DESCRIPTION QTY

9 PLUMBING

A To replace existing sewage pipe to PVC pipe :- Lump sum $850.00

Kitchen

2 Bath

10 PAINTING WORK

A To furnish wall with Nippon Easywash Lump sum $900.00

whole house 5 colours inclusive of white

B To paint door frame & pipings Lump sum Inclusive

11 CARPENTRY

All works are in laminated finish on solid plywood unless otherwise stated

All cabinet c/w internal white polycam finish unless otherwise stated

Exclusive of all electrical and lighting works

A KITCHEN

a Additional length of cabinet Est 6 ft $540.00

b To supply and install solid surface top 11 ft $770.00

c To supply and install stainless steel backing at hob area Lump sum $150.00

d To supply and install battom cabinet & solid surface top 4 ft $500.00

( to cover rubbish chute)

e To supply and install pull-out retractable breakfast table L/S $350.00

B FOYER

a Design and install Half-ht storage, shoe cabinet & settee Lump sum $1,440.00

Casement laminated doors

White PVC interior

loose adjustable shelving

Size: 3600L x 400D x 1000Ht

b Design and install Half-ht wall mirror Lump sum $1,000.00

W/o wood backing

Size: 3600L x 1300Ht

C LIVING

a Design and install TV console / Feature wall Lump sum $1,500.00

Bottom TV console for equipment

Front AVA trays / drawers (separate unit)

drawers and sliding trays

full height feature wall backdrop

Size: 1800L x 550/100D x 600/2600Ht

b Design and install Low storage cabinet (at partition wall) Lump sum $600.00

Magnetic clear glass door

DESCRIPTION QTY

Cherry PVC interior

loose adjustable glass shelving

Size: 400L x 180D x 900Ht x 2 sets

c Design and install wall mounted shelving 2 pcs $200.00

Size: 1500L x 150D x 50Ht

d Design and install Mini coffee table Lump sum $400.00

Size: 1000L x 400D x 420Ht

D DINING

a Design and install Storage cabinet Lump sum $2,160.00

Magnetic clear glass door

White PVC interior

loose adjustable shelving

W/ stainless steel strip on door

Size: 2650L x 600D x 2400Ht

E BATHROOM

a Design and install Top hanging storage cabinet Lump sum $500.00

Casement laminated doors

White PVC interior

loose adjustable shelving

Size: 500L x 300D x 700Ht x 2 sets

12 MISCELLANEOUS

A General cleaning for whole house Lump sum $150.00

B To supply and lay corrugated paper for the whole house Lump sum $150.00

C Installation of kitchen and bathroom accessories Lump sum FOC

D Haulage fee Lump sum $300.00

Total is $46k

[fteocs 0]

31st July....going to register for my girl primary school and also fixed up appt to see drawing by my friend's ID company.

Just to mentioned, the person assigned to me by my friend mentioned that the quote provided includes supplying of sink, toilet bowls, basin, hob & hood, bath room accessories.....so the price of about $45k +/- is actually not that bad especially when compared to a few others I have got. But guess for things like taps and shower set will need to top up or get my own, I prefer the Grohe stuff.

He also mentioned that the drawings will be free even if ultimately I don;t engage their work, hopefully can get soft copy.

And yes 1st HDB appt on 2nd Aug....then flying off to US on 20th Aug...come back just nice a couple of weeks later for the 2nd HDB appt and by then I should be signing up a ID and start renovation submission and work right after handover. Hope everything go smooth.

Cheers

[summerholiday 2]

wow you sure do a lot... surprise at your work too...