deepakvali 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2007 let me add on to along the same line... hope we wont get into trouble with our diverse discussion manz : ) i have been regularly to countries where whites reside, i.e. Australia, USA, etc..... the authorithy the police commands as well as the respect they command is something totally different from Asia. The mentality held by the police/sheriffs are also vast apart from here in Singapore. They have pride and feel that they are the best and it is their duty and due diligence to perform any form of service to ensure the town/suburb/county/estate is at peace.whereas here, it is more like a job and if i can do less, why not, and i agree that calling for their service would render at least a 15min response even if they are only 1min away, not sure what form of "make-up" they require before they stroll out of their kiosks. which crook will allow you a 15min interval yet be there for you to play hide and seek....actually more can be expressed but i rest the case here to avoid Racial Disharmony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin Yap 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2007 our police also got patrol mah.. Just that they are patrolling at MRT stns and while patroling, they are looking at mei meis, using hps or talking to one another lor. Sometimes I really wonder why I dun take up this occupation. Even if someone jump down the tracks, they will not be doing anything what.. What can they do?Somemore, I was on the way to office at 8.30am one sunday to clear my stuff at Raffles Place which is a dead town. I was crossing this traffic light between OUB plaza n UOB plaza where the distance is probably 3.5m apart?? I crossed the road when the light was green and i was stopped by a TP and given a warning.. Come on man!! Nothing better to do??I think I can lie on the road for ten mins n no stupid car will be passing by that road! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vineyard 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2007 Actually, to be fair and compare apples with apples of the same region. Even thou i am not a friend of the MIB, in Asia itself, our MIB is already much more professional then other Asian cities. Citing one very good example when I was in Shanghai (in Hongqiao city area and not sub-urban), was in a police station (just like our NPP) to report a case of thief, the 'officer' on duty was cutting his nose hair infront of me while taking down statement!! can you even imagine that! One more encounter was in the police sub-HQ (just like our NPC) I was asked to wait outside for their ociffer to come back. After two hours, i give up and called 110 (like our 999), its only then that a police car arrive in 15 mins that i am allowed to go in. In actual fact the officer was in, just that they wanted you to wait in a hope that you will give up and leave Imagine, you have to call the police infront of a police station!? !! Don't even want to mention if you want to compare them to ASEAN countries.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zirhk3355 1 Report post Posted August 9, 2007 Actually, to be fair and compare apples with apples of the same region. Even thou i am not a friend of the MIB, in Asia itself, our MIB is already much more professional then other Asian cities. Citing one very good example when I was in Shanghai (in Hongqiao city area and not sub-urban), was in a police station (just like our NPP) to report a case of thief, the 'officer' on duty was cutting his nose hair infront of me while taking down statement!! can you even imagine that! !! One more encounter was in the police sub-HQ (just like our NPC) I was asked to wait outside for their ociffer to come back. After two hours, i give up and called 110 (like our 999), its only then that a police car arrive in 15 mins that i am allowed to go in. In actual fact the officer was in, just that they wanted you to wait in a hope that you will give up and leave Imagine, you have to call the police infront of a police station!? Don't even want to mention if you want to compare them to ASEAN countries..Comparing apples to apples would not quite mean Shanghai as well; even though they are more prosperous than us now, their economy did not pick up until the recent years. However, for Singapore, we had been prosperous for a long time already, but our service standards are still at low level.A fair comparison would like Hong Kong, although a China's SAR now but still very much on its own.And you cannot take examples like Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia too - they may be asian countries but still a developing nation. To compare ourselves with, developing countries and say that we are better is just being self-deceiving. When you compare you want to put yourself up against the better ones, isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepakvali 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2007 IMO if we wanna benchmark, we should always benchmark against the best so that we know where to improve....if we benchmark backwards, we will always be resting on our laurels leow : ) think we including me been going way off topic.... we should be talkin about the neighbourhood again. coming back to the topic on the gate hinges, i went around looking at my old housing estate and realise that all the gates have the same concept, either a rivet at the top/bottom and welded, elses its a bolt/nut combo with some weld too.... thus i guess the ease of break-in has nothing much to do with the design but probably the sheer peacefullness of the blocks which are yet to be appropraitely occupied that lead to such break-in's i will try to take some pixs over the weekend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zirhk3355 1 Report post Posted August 9, 2007 thus i guess the ease of break-in has nothing much to do with the design but probably the sheer peacefullness of the blocks which are yet to be appropraitely occupied that lead to such break-in'sI think you are right - not to discriminate, but its surely unsafe to have all these foreign workers running around our estate. Its almost impossible for me to recognise them, all looks the same to me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vineyard 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2007 Comparing apples to apples would not quite mean Shanghai as well; even though they are more prosperous than us now, their economy did not pick up until the recent years. However, for Singapore, we had been prosperous for a long time already, but our service standards are still at low level.A fair comparison would like Hong Kong, although a China's SAR now but still very much on its own.And you cannot take examples like Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia too - they may be asian countries but still a developing nation. To compare ourselves with, developing countries and say that we are better is just being self-deceiving. When you compare you want to put yourself up against the better ones, isn't it?zirhk, well said, so the final conclusion is that our MIB is still sub-standard.ok not to side track, ya with so many construction and reno going around its a easy picking for the ill intended. And since its hard to prevent, what about buying insurance? What you guys think about the AIG and GE extra protection? to buy or not to buy and which one is better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desmond 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2007 i bought a home protection scheme thing to protect my home contents and fittings.....juz to have a peace of mind=Pwill u be around this evening neo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zirhk3355 1 Report post Posted August 11, 2007 ok not to side track, ya with so many construction and reno going around its a easy picking for the ill intended. And since its hard to prevent, what about buying insurance? What you guys think about the AIG and GE extra protection? to buy or not to buy and which one is better?Sorry just saw this: I will be buying the AIG one since they are the original company to cover for our fire insurance.BTW did you see my PM? hehe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nemofc 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2007 hi guysi just wonder whether your units are using "Citygas water heater" or "Electric"?HOw will it be like using "Citygas water heater"? heard that the "tank" will be placed outside the toilet instead of inside.comment?i'm from jln membina thread.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zirhk3355 1 Report post Posted August 11, 2007 hi guysi just wonder whether your units are using "Citygas water heater" or "Electric"?HOw will it be like using "Citygas water heater"? heard that the "tank" will be placed outside the toilet instead of inside.comment?i'm from jln membina thread..Citygas' one is a "gas water heater", its very small so I supposed it doesn't have a very big tank. According to the website it can heat up water instantaneously. I am having doubts, but since its free so try first lor, if cannot make it then buy storage heater.It acts like a storage heater, placed in your kitchen with the pipes running into your two toilets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nemofc 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2007 Citygas' one is a "gas water heater", its very small so I supposed it doesn't have a very big tank. According to the website it can heat up water instantaneously. I am having doubts, but since its free so try first lor, if cannot make it then buy storage heater.It acts like a storage heater, placed in your kitchen with the pipes running into your two toilets.thanks zirhk,yes, it's like a storage heater (tank) hanging inside the common toilet, BUT this gas water heater will be hanging outside just the toilet on top of the swtiches. Tanglin halt's neighbouring using that? Can show picture here? thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zirhk3355 1 Report post Posted August 12, 2007 thanks zirhk,yes, it's like a storage heater (tank) hanging inside the common toilet, BUT this gas water heater will be hanging outside just the toilet on top of the swtiches. Tanglin halt's neighbouring using that? Can show picture here? thanksStorage heater is different from instant heater, where the former is used for all hot water taps and the latter is connected to the shower-head directly and used solely for that purpose.Thus usually storage heaters and gas heaters are fixed in the kitchen and not in any of the toilets. Even more so for the gas heater, because it uses gas to ignite a flame that heats up the water, it would be safer to place the gas heater in an open place.In Tanglin Halt we were lucky that we were given concealed hot/cold water pipings that goes to all the taps in the house. Thus just install one storage/gas heater in the kitchen, we can have hot water in the kitchen and both toilet.Pic as below:Notice the red/blue strip stickers? They are the located of the concealed hot/cold water pipes respectively. Also, notice the 'U'-shaped pipe on the wall? Its actually connecting the hot/cold water pipes together so that both pipes supply cold water for now. My contractor is supposed to cut off the U-shaped pipes, and onnect the gas heater to the respective openings (red for hot water, blue for cold water). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nemofc 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2007 Storage heater is different from instant heater, where the former is used for all hot water taps and the latter is connected to the shower-head directly and used solely for that purpose.Thus usually storage heaters and gas heaters are fixed in the kitchen and not in any of the toilets. Even more so for the gas heater, because it uses gas to ignite a flame that heats up the water, it would be safer to place the gas heater in an open place.In Tanglin Halt we were lucky that we were given concealed hot/cold water pipings that goes to all the taps in the house. Thus just install one storage/gas heater in the kitchen, we can have hot water in the kitchen and both toilet.Pic as below:Notice the red/blue strip stickers? They are the located of the concealed hot/cold water pipes respectively. Also, notice the 'U'-shaped pipe on the wall? Its actually connecting the hot/cold water pipes together so that both pipes supply cold water for now. My contractor is supposed to cut off the U-shaped pipes, and onnect the gas heater to the respective openings (red for hot water, blue for cold water).thanks zirhkthis is what i'm referring actually - using "Citygas Water heater" instead of using electric. "Citygas water heater" is free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepakvali 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2007 pardon my ignorance but the "electrical appliance" in the picture is a hot water storage heater or just an instant water heater? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites