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[Lauer 15]

One more thing to observe also......if the fsm got shop, check history if any of his shop or other branch got close down. If so, what does it tell you? Aiyo....if master proclaimzzz to be a feng shui expert yet his own shop also cannot save or prosper......good luck hor if you want to have your house feng shui checked by him.

我以为, a FSM is not 神.

He also couldn't escape his 天命. (Which is why I believe that any FS application has very marginal impact to a person's 命. At best, it serves to only minimize the negative; certainly not able to turn a negative into a positive.)

For example what happened to 郭璞, 刘基 etc at the end?

Cheers!

[Ivy1981 11]

The interesting part is when you ask senior A, his advice will differ from Senior B. Normally, I'll just read for leisure will do.

That's easy to say. When I was just new and learning, they were a shoulder to rely on......

[Ivy1981 11]

我以为, a FSM is not 神.

He also couldn't escape his 天命. (Which is why I believe that any FS application has very marginal impact to a person's 命. At best, it serves to only minimize the negative; certainly not able to turn a negative into a positive.)

For example what happened to 郭璞, 刘基 etc at the end?

Cheers!

FS application may be marginal to some ppl because they didn't experience loh......maybe after you come across some people who witnezzz the changes or $$, then hor....you will say different loh.

Aiyo....don't bring out all those chinese namezzz....what actually happened back then we don't exactly know.......

[Lauer 15]

FS application may be marginal to some ppl because they didn't experience loh......maybe after you come across some people who witnezzz the changes or $$, then hor....you will say different loh.

Aiyo....don't bring out all those chinese namezzz....what actually happened back then we don't exactly know.......

也是.

Thanks for the reminder.

Cheers!

[bepgof 20]

FS concerns 'balance' or 'equivalence', visible and invisible, tangible and intangible, among all things, within the environment where one exists.

Environment is constantly changing as we knows - tech, laws, tastes, culture, social constructs, etc...

From business sense, for an entity to be able to survive, it has to have 'values' creating demand for revenue-therefore marketing, location selection, branding, market positioning, sales strategies come in. Working capital for cash in/out flows has to be properly managed. If not enough capital,then financing and cost of capital management take place. Material, overheads, labour also come into the pricing equation. Not to mention business ethics, corporate government and corporate social responsibilities topics.

Can a fsm has these entailed skills/experience....to run fs shop as a business? Or simply by his DOB/bazi with the look-simple yet complex theories of YY, NESW, Stem-branch drawing conclusion the business is sure 'sustainable' ?

Competency or DOB a more 'surer' way to success?

[Retiresoon 0]

FS application may be marginal to some ppl because they didn't experience loh......maybe after you come across some people who witnezzz the changes or $$, then hor....you will say different loh.

Aiyo....don't bring out all those chinese namezzz....what actually happened back then we don't exactly know.......

Its true that some people didn't have the chance to experience. If a person is observant enough on some shops or business, they may realise coincidentally some business no matter how hardworking or clever the owner, they will still fail in the business. Interestingly also the same shop front always change owner. Yet I have also seen owners who are not clever or didn't have the qualification required, did very well.

Lawyers are not stupid? Are they? They are respectable and have good knowledge. Many of their offices obviously displayed feng shui applications. Their business and clientele are much better as compared to others. When we pick on something to comment and yet without giving consideration to a thorough comparison, we may need to reflect on our on mentality. Too bias or insufficient exposure?

Needless to say, I believe many people should have come across big corporations who engaged masters to audit their offices. If these big bosses steadfastly believe even when they are at such a status, anybody who is just a nobody should keep an open mind before giving negative conclusive comments. Otherwise, it again reflect on their ignorance and make a fool out of themselves.

A feng shui master is helping the lives and businesses of other people. It is ridiculous to be able to say, help other business boom and his own business fail. The only possibility is that this feng shui master is not an expert yet.

[Retiresoon 0]

我以为, a FSM is not 神.

He also couldn't escape his 天命. (Which is why I believe that any FS application has very marginal impact to a person's 命. At best, it serves to only minimize the negative; certainly not able to turn a negative into a positive.)

For example what happened to 郭璞, 刘基 etc at the end?

Cheers!

Here is what I witnessed on one of my friend. He invited a master to audit his house. Based on the master's advice, a fish tank was placed in the house and his office was adjusted. By the time he told me about this was when he was giving us a treat eating sharkfins at leisure park kallang. His business revenues increased tremendously almost within a week. "Ming"? I doubt so. He was pulling thorough during certain months in the past and previously we never get a treat from him other than a coffee from ah Kun.

How about this master that helped him? According to my friend, he was doing very well himself.

I don't really know about all those history books masters. They lived in another time and how accurately their story was related is yet to be proved.

I used to travel and socialise a lot when much younger. There are many such cases seen where changes take place for the better immediately after their feng shui master did something to their houses.

Once I was in a hotel in Melbourne. The weather was very cold. The windows were half closed. My friend came over and asked why I still turned on the aircon? You see, some people are like the windows, may have their eyes half close. They depend on their own personal feeling, senses and judgement but they don't open their eyes to see clearly.

[Lauer 15]

How do you know that whatever happened to your friend, it was not due to his 命? As I have written before, the 命 also inclusive his meeting the (right) FSM and then followed the FSM's advices and prospered from them.

Or you are saying that a FSM could overrule a 命 regardless? Or you believe in FSM but not 命?

I guess that unless one is able to see snippets of his future, he wouldn't understand the true meaning of 命.

Actually I am very keen to hear of success FS stories, so please tell me more. I even searched Ivy's old postings looking for the same. I asked 168 to explain more of a successful case, he ended saying too technical for me le? It is not about saying bad thing about a FSM but good thing so why people are so reluctant to share success stories?

Cheers!

[bepgof 20]

Here is what I witnessed on one of my friend. He invited a master to audit his house. Based on the master's advice, a fish tank was placed in the house and his office was adjusted. By the time he told me about this was when he was giving us a treat eating sharkfins at leisure park kallang. His business revenues increased tremendously almost within a week. "Ming"? I doubt so. He was pulling thorough during certain months in the past and previously we never get a treat from him other than a coffee from ah Kun.

How about this master that helped him? According to my friend, he was doing very well himself.

I don't really know about all those history books masters. They lived in another time and how accurately their story was related is yet to be proved.

I used to travel and socialise a lot when much younger. There are many such cases seen where changes take place for the better immediately after their feng shui master did something to their houses.

Once I was in a hotel in Melbourne. The weather was very cold. The windows were half closed. My friend came over and asked why I still turned on the aircon? You see, some people are like the windows, may have their eyes half close. They depend on their own personal feeling, senses and judgement but they don't open their eyes to see clearly.

Business improves within a week?.

Account Receivable got improved?

APs got successfully extended? So less worry?

Sales revenue shot up 3 digits, wow? yoy?

No cashflows/working capital issues?

What's your friend doing? Trader? Service? OEM?System integrator? Hawker?

CAN PERFORMANCE OF BUSINESS BE CONCLUDED WITHIN A WEEK??? WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS ?

Did something to the house?? Then business improve??

Care to elaborate further how these are linked together?

[Retiresoon 0]

How do you know that whatever happened to your friend, it was not due to his 命? As I have written before, the 命 also inclusive his meeting the (right) FSM and then followed the FSM's advices and prospered from them.

Or you are saying that a FSM could overrule a 命 regardless? Or you believe in FSM but not 命?

I guess that unless one is able to see snippets of his future, he wouldn't understand the true meaning of 命.

Actually I am very keen to hear of success FS stories, so please tell me more. I even searched Ivy's old postings looking for the same. I asked 168 to explain more of a successful case, he ended saying too technical for me le? It is not about saying bad thing about a FSM but good thing so why people are so reluctant to share success stories?

Cheers!

We are friends and met up often. He is an auditor/secretarial services. During the past, there were months where he was stressed over the pay of his staffs. "Ming", I know from the bits and pieces he poured out. In service line, when you don't have enough clientele, its very hard to get by. After the feng shui done, there were big accounts coming into his company.

I have learnt and don't believe any FSM. I only believe in the FSM who has a good record of showing feng shui changes and benefited people. Take wealth for example. When my this friend who apparently has no wealth, benefited from such changes. I'm happy for him. I understand what your assumption is and there should be a possibility. When we discuss on the subject of wealth, the coincidental turning point can be due to 'ming'. I used to think of that.

When you witness someone who has terminal illness and was destined to die ( bazi masters confirm, doctors also gave up), survived and health improved, then credit should be given to feng shui, isn't it? If you believe in 'ming' so much, then cases like terminal illness, barren and others are definitely destined. That's why I explained earlier about exposure. If a person don't have enough exposure, mostly will be surrounded by doubts. Then again, there are possibilities in what you say. Maybe, there should be more cases to witness and ponder over. I do not say I totally believe but has more tendency towards feeling the feng shui is a source of hope in despair.

Everyone who somehow come across feng shui and benefited has his own privacy, I believed. Nobody will want to announce to the public that he being a lawyer or an auditor depended on feng shui for wealth, do they?

Personally, I don't wish to be known to be too obviously dependent on feng shui to people around me. You know sometimes this kind of dilemma may exist. There were times where I catched a flu. It was only that I didn't seem to get well after consulting 2 doctors before I looked into those feng shui remedies. As personal experience, placing a remedy at a 'sickness' sector or refraining from spending time there can relieved me. What do you say? "Ming" again?

I recalled there was one year where my office has all the staffs having diarrhea. It was quite an alarm. Now, if you say its "ming", then you will by this mean all the staffs have the same destiny in their bazi to get diarrhea? Not possible right? I'm also keen to listen to stories that are not too superstitious.

[topcat 0]

Your right as FS only account for 1/3 or 1/4

How do you know that whatever happened to your friend, it was not due to his 命? As I have written before, the 命 also inclusive his meeting the (right) FSM and then followed the FSM's advices and prospered from them.

Or you are saying that a FSM could overrule a 命 regardless? Or you believe in FSM but not 命?

I guess that unless one is able to see snippets of his future, he wouldn't understand the true meaning of 命.

Actually I am very keen to hear of success FS stories, so please tell me more. I even searched Ivy's old postings looking for the same. I asked 168 to explain more of a successful case, he ended saying too technical for me le? It is not about saying bad thing about a FSM but good thing so why people are so reluctant to share success stories?

Cheers!

[Lauer 15]

(I am just borrowing the video for illustration, and not making fun of an unfortunate event.)

Perhaps this video could illustrate a 命 in motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaED0ljEZVI&sns=em

[bepgof 20]

How do you know that whatever happened to your friend, it was not due to his 命? As I have written before, the 命 also inclusive his meeting the (right) FSM and then followed the FSM's advices and prospered from them.

Or you are saying that a FSM could overrule a 命 regardless? Or you believe in FSM but not 命?

I guess that unless one is able to see snippets of his future, he wouldn't understand the true meaning of 命.

Actually I am very keen to hear of success FS stories, so please tell me more. I even searched Ivy's old postings looking for the same. I asked 168 to explain more of a successful case, he ended saying too technical for me le? It is not about saying bad thing about a FSM but good thing so why people are so reluctant to share success stories?

Cheers!

This concerns metaphysics which you could not find an answer but one has to trust his 'faith'.

- Monkey Sun can go travel anyway he likes, but he can only travel within 如来's five fingers.

- Mankind has 'free will' to make any choice, but he can't God's plan for him.

命 is defined as 'eventual outcome'- which make up of a series of events. These events intertwined each and these are 'interdependence' and has been 'planned' in the very beginning.

So, FS is merely a tool, from one perspective, for making lives 'better', smoother or less obstacles in the process of life.

Mankind has been trying ways and means to 'unlock' 命 so as to read his 命 in advance. And try to change his 命.

Can they know and 'change' their 命? It is a yes and no answer.

We change things to change our 命 - one perspective, the answer is yes.

From a '命predetermined' perspective, the answer is no. You'll live within the '5 fingers' no matter how good your 'jumping skill' is.

I more tend to believe the latter.

[Lauer 15]

This concerns metaphysics which you could not find an answer but one has to trust his 'faith'.

- Monkey Sun can go travel anyway he likes, but he can only travel within 如来's five fingers.

- Mankind has 'free will' to make any choice, but he can't God's plan for him.

命 is defined as 'eventual outcome'- which make up of a series of events. These events intertwined each and these are 'interdependence' and has been 'planned' in the very beginning.

So, FS is merely a tool, from one perspective, for making lives 'better', smoother or less obstacles in the process of life.

Mankind has been trying ways and means to 'unlock' 命 so as to read his 命 in advance. And try to change his 命.

Can they know and 'change' their 命? It is a yes and no answer.

We change things to change our 命 - one perspective, the answer is yes.

From a '命predetermined' perspective, the answer is no. You'll live within the '5 fingers' no matter how good your 'jumping skill' is.

I more tend to believe the latter.

我以为, we should define the proper context before going further.

What you have referred to above, is the thousand-years old philosophical question of Determinism vs Free Will. In this case, you are right that there is no conclusion; it is yes or no answer. In fact, there are variations in the type of Determinism.

However, in the context described by Retiresoon, we are speaking of 命理风水. In this context, in its theorectical evolution 命 and 风水 are related and not separable. This is unlike the philosophical question, one could take the position of Determinism or Free Will but not both.

我以为, what should be really interesting is to have, for example 168, to look at a floor layout in the t-blog before the renovation starts and describe to us what would happen to the owner during the renovation; smoothly done or not, what kind of problems/issues would appear. Afterall, he stated that the 风水 of a house basically overlaps the 命 of the owner.

Cheers!

[Retiresoon 0]

(I am just borrowing the video for illustration, and not making fun of an unfortunate event.)

Perhaps this video could illustrate a 命 in motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaED0ljEZVI&sns=em

This is a good illustration. There is a difference. The examples of Korean boat sunken that caused lives, the MH371 that caused lives, the many accidents and calamity that caused many lives together. According to the master, this is destiny ending (don't know exact translation). This destiny ending will group the people together for the ending. You will note that in the capsized ferry, there were also survivors too. You also need to note that in the Nepal earthquake, there were dead and survivors. In an event, there are always people around that witness or encounter the process. That doesn't mean their 'ming' is the same.

In the collapse stage, its probably a stage fright or to some a minor bump or no injury at all. Just like diarrhea. A feng shui problem. Probably a non-life threatening common event. Just like a group of people in a cinema, a group of people in a restaurant, a group at the stadium. An event: all share the same movie, all share the same chef food, all share the same soccer game, all may share the same stadium collapse. There is a difference between an external event as compared to an internal event. According to him, external disaster event is one which must take place. If the person's bazi is destiny ending, he will be grouped into this event or some other similar life ending events.

The difference between the two is that in a non-destiny ending event, different people lives come together and encounter a common feng shui problem that caused them diarrhea. Their bazi are different. Their bazi don't have diarrhea. I never checked but can assumed because they all did different things and lived differently every day during then. They went different places and didn't lunch with me. So in their bazi, It may be a shock day, a mishap day, an unfortunate day. Including mine.

An internal event as I understand from him is the person's bazi have say a certain disease.

This is the best to my interpretation of what I heard from the master.

Back to your "ming" which has little to do with feng shui statement.

So , is it "ming" that a person cannot escape regardless of feng shui or "ming" that has variations with the environment. I would say just like rojak. You ordered one and I also ordered one. Is it "ming" ? I can eat any piece and you can share with your family.

To better illustrate, another example are a pair of twins that are born together. It is suppose like you say, "ming" and they should have the same fate. This pair of twins, one is married and the other is not. They don't live together and they don't do the same job but they have the same bazi.

I'm not an expert but from the past observance, I cannot conclude together with you that "ming" has little influence from feng shui. If "ming" is fated and different house cannot influence it, then the twins should be doing the same things together, those born in the same year, date, time same with me should be going through the same identical event with me together.