alfredt 27 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 It is really up to individual.For some who are just staying in their house temporarily (eg. a few short years), they feel no need to installothers who are planning a longer stay, may want these data points with the view that more and more services will be IP based and that data points will be important. already we are seeing TV, phones, cameras that are IP based. Soon, (now don't laugh) Refrigerator, oven, in-house devices (eg. thermostats) etc.I have even seen a mirror that has an IP connection to stream news and email . (when they need those on a mirror is beyond me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songz 132 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 It is really up to individual.For some who are just staying in their house temporarily (eg. a few short years), they feel no need to installothers who are planning a longer stay, may want these data points with the view that more and more services will be IP based and that data points will be important. already we are seeing TV, phones, cameras that are IP based. Soon, (now don't laugh) Refrigerator, oven, in-house devices (eg. thermostats) etc.I have even seen a mirror that has an IP connection to stream news and email . (when they need those on a mirror is beyond me) So high tech... i really mountain tortoise ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guojiawen 101 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 It is really up to individual.For some who are just staying in their house temporarily (eg. a few short years), they feel no need to installothers who are planning a longer stay, may want these data points with the view that more and more services will be IP based and that data points will be important. already we are seeing TV, phones, cameras that are IP based. Soon, (now don't laugh) Refrigerator, oven, in-house devices (eg. thermostats) etc.I have even seen a mirror that has an IP connection to stream news and email . (when they need those on a mirror is beyond me) Haha got the point. Very hard to catch up with technologies nowadays!wifi extender can help to extend the coverage, but i think you need a power source (ac socket) for it. Yup thinking of placing it at my TV console area.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BH72 8 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 Hi,If yours is new BTO, you could also consider converting all existing telephone points to data points. Don't have to ask your contractor to lay data cables.http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/garage-sales-18/services-fiber-telephone-point-lan-data-ethernet-point-conversion-services-4390951.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ks Toh 74 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 I explained why you should lay data points here:http://www.renotalk.com/forum/topic/62505-top-kew-drive/?p=835953The other blog you may want to read is Mavicaste' blog. His network layout and installation is more professional than mine.If you have any queries, feel free to ask. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guojiawen 101 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 Hi,If yours is new BTO, you could also consider converting all existing telephone points to data points. Don't have to ask your contractor to lay data cables.http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/garage-sales-18/services-fiber-telephone-point-lan-data-ethernet-point-conversion-services-4390951.htmlI explained why you should lay data points here:http://www.renotalk.com/forum/topic/62505-top-kew-drive/?p=835953The other blog you may want to read is Mavicaste' blog. His network layout and installation is more professional than mine.If you have any queries, feel free to ask.Thanks, I think I have a neighbour offering to do it (for a fee of course). An extract of what he fb msg-ed me:3 main services; phone to lan pt conversion, phone patch and home wifi setup 1) phone to lan conversion gives u direct or wired connection to ur desktop, internet tv or other network device in bedroom. at same time, u can place extra router to provide full wifi coverage 2) phone patch allows u to put cordless phone near tv console in living room if digital home line is used. without phone patch, u might need to put cordless phone in utility cabinetSo if I'm not mistaken, for new BTO, like what BH72 suggested, we don't need to lay the cabling, and can directly do phone to LAN point conversion in all bedrooms + living room? Then we will have the data point where we need them?P.s Kstoh, thanks for the comprehensive sharing and making it basic for understanding. I'm sold by the reasons you gave.. If new BTO can just do the conversion without laying cables, I think I will just do it in case we need it for the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ks Toh 74 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 Since 1 May 2013, IDA has mandated that all new homes must have pre-laid network points in all rooms. I am not sure but I am sure this policy applies to HDB flats as well.The government is well aware of how important this is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ks Toh 74 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 So if I'm not mistaken, for new BTO, like what BH72 suggested, we don't need to lay the cabling, and can directly do phone to LAN point conversion in all bedrooms + living room? Then we will have the data point where we need them?P.s Kstoh, thanks for the comprehensive sharing and making it basic for understanding. I'm sold by the reasons you gave.. If new BTO can just do the conversion without laying cables, I think I will just do it in case we need it for the future. IDA has required all new homes w.e.f. 1 May 2013 to have Cat 6 cabling to every room. So most likely the contractor simply laid Cat 6 cables to the telephone point. It is probably just a case of changing the face plate. In fact, I believe that since some years back, contractors have already been using network cabling as the telephone cable. It could be Cat 5 or 5e cabling but still fast enough. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BH72 8 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 Thanks, I think I have a neighbour offering to do it (for a fee of course). An extract of what he fb msg-ed me:3 main services; phone to lan pt conversion, phone patch and home wifi setup 1) phone to lan conversion gives u direct or wired connection to ur desktop, internet tv or other network device in bedroom. at same time, u can place extra router to provide full wifi coverage 2) phone patch allows u to put cordless phone near tv console in living room if digital home line is used. without phone patch, u might need to put cordless phone in utility cabinetSo if I'm not mistaken, for new BTO, like what BH72 suggested, we don't need to lay the cabling, and can directly do phone to LAN point conversion in all bedrooms + living room? Then we will have the data point where we need them?P.s Kstoh, thanks for the comprehensive sharing and making it basic for understanding. I'm sold by the reasons you gave.. If new BTO can just do the conversion without laying cables, I think I will just do it in case we need it for the future. I have not seen the wiring for a new BTO flat. If there are prelaid telephone cables to all rooms then technically it is possible. He just need to change the RJ11 faceplate which is used for analog phone to RJ45 faceplate that is used for data. Few short LAN patch cords to connect from ONT (provided by Internet Service Provider aka M1, Singtel for converting optical to electrical signal) to the converted LAN points.He won't change the prelaid cable, will be using those cable laid by HDB. So if your prelaid cable is CAT5, then your max speed is 100Mbps irregardless of your uplink. But this is already much better than WIFI's speed.You can get the guy to come over and check if your flat could do the conversion after you subscribe to fibre broadband. Remember to do speedtest to ensure you have good connection for all converted LAN points. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahhboi 15 Report post Posted April 2, 2014 I have not seen the wiring for a new BTO flat. If there are prelaid telephone cables to all rooms then technically it is possible. He just need to change the RJ11 faceplate which is used for analog phone to RJ45 faceplate that is used for data. Few short LAN patch cords to connect from ONT (provided by Internet Service Provider aka M1, Singtel for converting optical to electrical signal) to the converted LAN points.He won't change the prelaid cable, will be using those cable laid by HDB. So if your prelaid cable is CAT5, then your max speed is 100Mbps irregardless of your uplink. But this is already much better than WIFI's speed.You can get the guy to come over and check if your flat could do the conversion after you subscribe to fibre broadband. Remember to do speedtest to ensure you have good connection for all converted LAN points. May I ask, how do you do the speed test? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BH72 8 Report post Posted April 2, 2014 May I ask, how do you do the speed test? Thanks! http://www.speedtest.net/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vct 30 Report post Posted April 4, 2014 Revised kitchen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vct 30 Report post Posted April 4, 2014 Living room, featured wall confirmed will change design and colour, very ugly.Walk-in Wardrobe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koori 45 Report post Posted April 4, 2014 wah~ walk in wardrobe looks nice. Is it really as big as it looks like in the 3D? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vct 30 Report post Posted April 4, 2014 Not really big lah, if you realise the 2nd pic there's a mirror. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites