melmeow 1 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 not very sure.....should be > 2xxx <4xxxx range i believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ongcs 3 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Wah...I need to start saving after my banquet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melmeow 1 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 ya else i get thru installment...hehehe slowly pay...just lesser discount from dealer but more cash to play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ongcs 3 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Can meh? I didnt know, always settle in full. which house does that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melmeow 1 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 pay in cash more discount lor...maybe 3% more ? Me prefer to hold my cash if possible....so i always ask for installment...i used it as one way to control my buying also...at least know one item in installment i wont buy another within that 1 yr. Most shops have that scheme one....some works with SCB cards some with citibank cards...adelphi sure have one la.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdmundOng 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2013 Hi ongcs,Sorry to hijack your thread.I'm intending to install Cat6 cable for my 4-room HDB and need your advice.The purpose will be to stream and access stuff via NAS or media box to TV or laptop.Which brand do you recommend? AMP or Beldan? If AMP, how much did you bought it via distributor? If budget, which brand is affordable?What length will be enough for Living room to the 3 rooms assuming 2 points per location?Was intending to go SLT to source for the cable as i believe ID or contractor will quote more if they buy for me.Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ongcs 3 Report post Posted May 28, 2013 Hi ongcs,Sorry to hijack your thread.I'm intending to install Cat6 cable for my 4-room HDB and need your advice.The purpose will be to stream and access stuff via NAS or media box to TV or laptop.Which brand do you recommend? AMP or Beldan? If AMP, how much did you bought it via distributor? If budget, which brand is affordable?What length will be enough for Living room to the 3 rooms assuming 2 points per location?Was intending to go SLT to source for the cable as i believe ID or contractor will quote more if they buy for me.Thanks.I liked AMP so my answer is pretty obvious. The rest of the brands are pretty ok, so long they are cat6 grade. Why? Our movement of data are not greatly impacted vs Corporate. It depends on your contractor, which brand he is using, as such, you are likely to use his brand. A little diffcult to justify which brand is affordable if you get me.Of cause, you can out source the materials yourself like my case. Beldan not bad, but not for me, AMP is one of the leader in network cable. Also, what is your budget? AMP is considered highly priced, I bought mine in bulk roll form. I did tried to buy loose from Sim Lim Square stores, they jacked their prices more than 100%.Assuming your place is new, like mine, you should be good at 100-150m range. You can try to measure the length yourself, go the longest route, add 20%(minimum) extra as allowances for termination/relocation etc. The location of your hub will also contribute the length requires on your case.I bought mine at $220(300m). I think I had used 1/3 of it, The rest still in my storeroom :bleah: You can ask around, I can offload some to you. Have fun. Feel free to ask more now, I will be away from next week onwards, till end of June. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lala81 3 Report post Posted June 9, 2013 Hi, got some questions about networking and your use of popcorn hour etc.No experience with NAS before.Getting a new HDB 5rm BTO.Floorplan as follows My main aim is to set up a NAS (? synology) so to store my photos and also to stream movies/videos to both my TVs (either living room or bedroom). Hopefully via How is your experience with popcornhour? I currently have a ACryan playonHD. But i'm thinking of just directly streaming to either the smart tv/smart bluray player. Will lose some flexibility with the subtitles and file types. But likely more convenient overall.I opted for floors in when i signed on 3 yrs ago. I'll probably not hack the floors though i may be tempted to lol If not then, probably thinking of running the cables via false ceiling in my living room +- my hallway into my MBR (also false ceiling/lightbox)Can i just get cables from Monoprice? http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10232Option 2 will be to use wireless but i prefer wired for streaming of videos... Any thoughts? Thanks btw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juxstapose 2 Report post Posted June 9, 2013 Looks big! And the kitchen layout could possibly be open concept/glass doors to bring the light in as well as make it look even bigger! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ongcs 3 Report post Posted June 10, 2013 Hi, got some questions about networking and your use of popcorn hour etc.No experience with NAS before.Getting a new HDB 5rm BTO.Floorplan as followsMy main aim is to set up a NAS (? synology) so to store my photos and also to stream movies/videos to both my TVs (either living room or bedroom). Hopefully via How is your experience with popcornhour? I currently have a ACryan playonHD. But i'm thinking of just directly streaming to either the smart tv/smart bluray player. Will lose some flexibility with the subtitles and file types. But likely more convenient overall.I opted for floors in when i signed on 3 yrs ago. I'll probably not hack the floors though i may be tempted to lol If not then, probably thinking of running the cables via false ceiling in my living room +- my hallway into my MBR (also false ceiling/lightbox)Can i just get cables from Monoprice? http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10232Option 2 will be to use wireless but i prefer wired for streaming of videos... Any thoughts? Thanks btw Let me start with NAS. If you are IT savy, you can build your NAS or buy Synology(OS is user friendly, easy to kick start for 1st time adopter) or Qnap(If you are good with open source softwares, will be better), like wise, later brand will be more expensive.For PCH, picture quality definitely better than AcRyan IMO. Compare AcRyan alone with Smart Tv & Bluray player. AcRyan probably will perform better in streaming the contents.Smart Tv will do well, which I'm using at the moment. It is capable of reading subtitles as well, tried embedded subtitles though. As for downside, audio quality, but if you are streaming normal video eg like drama., should be fine. Another will be picture quality, the bigger your tv screen, the picture quality will be obviously bad as well, based on my 65" Plasma Tv.For Bluray player, they will do well, as you mentioned, subtitles issue. Picture & audio quality should be good. No worries.You are ordering Cat6 cables from Monoprice, custom length with keystone? Or loose cable to run your house? My answer will be run wired than wireless anytime. For small devices like tablets, smartphones & notebooks, should be fine on wifi. For decorated streaming, wired preferred to avoid lag.You can run your network cable over the air, just got to make sure they are shielded & not near to electrical wires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonnite 2 Report post Posted June 10, 2013 oh ya, talk about shielding of cat 6 cables in the false ceiling - they can use those inflexible grey pvc pipes (like water pipes) to do it but u gotta do this while they are building the frame for your false ceiling...otherwise, you can only opt for the flexible plastic tubing (accordian type, slightly thicker than a plastic water pipe) to shield...i can only use the latter as i ran my cat 6 after... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lala81 3 Report post Posted June 10, 2013 Let me start with NAS. If you are IT savy, you can build your NAS or buy Synology(OS is user friendly, easy to kick start for 1st time adopter) or Qnap(If you are good with open source softwares, will be better), like wise, later brand will be more expensive.For PCH, picture quality definitely better than AcRyan IMO. Compare AcRyan alone with Smart Tv & Bluray player. AcRyan probably will perform better in streaming the contents.Smart Tv will do well, which I'm using at the moment. It is capable of reading subtitles as well, tried embedded subtitles though. As for downside, audio quality, but if you are streaming normal video eg like drama., should be fine. Another will be picture quality, the bigger your tv screen, the picture quality will be obviously bad as well, based on my 65" Plasma Tv.For Bluray player, they will do well, as you mentioned, subtitles issue. Picture & audio quality should be good. No worries.You are ordering Cat6 cables from Monoprice, custom length with keystone? Or loose cable to run your house? My answer will be run wired than wireless anytime. For small devices like tablets, smartphones & notebooks, should be fine on wifi. For decorated streaming, wired preferred to avoid lag.You can run your network cable over the air, just got to make sure they are shielded & not near to electrical wires.Thanks. 1st timer so probably go for Synology. Haha wife is Comp Engine background but i think i'll stick to something user friendly.ACRyan has given me many headaches in the past. So hope to not use it as necessary. Probably going to install a shelf to put bluray player + settop box above my MBR tv wall mount.Think monoprice has everything.I would need to get keystone plates x 2, keystone jacks x 2 and the cable i guess. But they only come without the normal RJ45 ends for the bulk 1000ft buys LOL. maybe i get them in singapore instead.What if i want to run a cable to my study area? how would the linkage work? sorry. noob here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lala81 3 Report post Posted June 10, 2013 oh ya, talk about shielding of cat 6 cables in the false ceiling - they can use those inflexible grey pvc pipes (like water pipes) to do it but u gotta do this while they are building the frame for your false ceiling...otherwise, you can only opt for the flexible plastic tubing (accordian type, slightly thicker than a plastic water pipe) to shield...i can only use the latter as i ran my cat 6 after...thanks will let my contractor know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ongcs 3 Report post Posted June 10, 2013 Thanks. 1st timer so probably go for Synology. Haha wife is Comp Engine background but i think i'll stick to something user friendly.ACRyan has given me many headaches in the past. So hope to not use it as necessary. Probably going to install a shelf to put bluray player + settop box above my MBR tv wall mount.Think monoprice has everything.I would need to get keystone plates x 2, keystone jacks x 2 and the cable i guess. But they only come without the normal RJ45 ends for the bulk 1000ft buys LOL. maybe i get them in singapore instead.What if i want to run a cable to my study area? how would the linkage work? sorry. noob here. Acryan is ok, simple GUI, most of the times, plays whatever files I had thrown in. Monoprice is ok, decent stuffs from them, not sure whether their shipping had came down though? Just ask your contractor to supply for you, no point buying yourself if not too many points. Savings might not be huge. If possible, run all points at 1 go, avoid adding any points later, you can cater additional points for future expansion, like IP cam etc. Can you let me know where you want the host your NAs, that will makes the linakge easier. If possible, draw simple diagram in your floorplan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lala81 3 Report post Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) As above. I'm bit kiasi one. So thinking of NAS. Then ? a DAS as backup storage (? in a fireproof safe?)Mostly for my family photos archive...EDIT: Wah the words turn out so small.OK. Red is Router + NAS. Blue boxes are the keystone plates/LAN points.- MBR: TV + ? 2nd port in case wireless signal weak when door closed- Study area is for PC- Living room tv. Edited June 12, 2013 by lala81 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites