arowana 2 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 read through the terms. Not sure if it has been changed already since SOR loans not too good for the bank already.During my time when i signed up in Apr11, i know that:- there was no early redepemption penalty fee- Free 2,500 lawyer's fee when processing the loan. We are free to choose any lawyer. The law firm will just bill ANZ directly- If refinance/redeem the loan less than 2 or 3yrs, need to pay back the lawyers fee, that's all.- The actual interest rate is determined every quater and will be used as the interest rate for that 3mths.You need to see whether you are the kind who can take risks or not. Got kiasee singaporeans not willing to bet on such stuff so they just continue to pay HDB 2.6%, but do note that, HDB might not increase interest rates when bank rates go up. But it doesn't mean it WOULDN'T increase, there is still the potential for it to increase. Look at the US market now, how long do you think it'll take to clean up its mess? my view is 5-10yrs minimum because they have been on credit steroids for too long. And on this side of the world, Singapore has the intention to fight inflation by continuously increasing exchange rates. So one will see more money/funds moving to SG/Asia, this will be factor that keeps SOR low.It's true housing loans are 30yrs. But nothing is certain in life and cast in stone. So one should be able to make calculated risks in such matters and measure the upside and downside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snoopy2006 0 Report post Posted August 14, 2011 read through the terms. Not sure if it has been changed already since SOR loans not too good for the bank already.During my time when i signed up in Apr11, i know that:- there was no early redepemption penalty fee- Free 2,500 lawyer's fee when processing the loan. We are free to choose any lawyer. The law firm will just bill ANZ directly- If refinance/redeem the loan less than 2 or 3yrs, need to pay back the lawyers fee, that's all.- The actual interest rate is determined every quater and will be used as the interest rate for that 3mths.You need to see whether you are the kind who can take risks or not. Got kiasee singaporeans not willing to bet on such stuff so they just continue to pay HDB 2.6%, but do note that, HDB might not increase interest rates when bank rates go up. But it doesn't mean it WOULDN'T increase, there is still the potential for it to increase. Look at the US market now, how long do you think it'll take to clean up its mess? my view is 5-10yrs minimum because they have been on credit steroids for too long. And on this side of the world, Singapore has the intention to fight inflation by continuously increasing exchange rates. So one will see more money/funds moving to SG/Asia, this will be factor that keeps SOR low.It's true housing loans are 30yrs. But nothing is certain in life and cast in stone. So one should be able to make calculated risks in such matters and measure the upside and downside.You're right! Bank loan is meant for people who dare to take risk.. We have decided to use HDB loan. Had sign OTP for the new house.Now praying hard my current house is able to sell at a good price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monyon99 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 U should repetition this warning to all belongings counters esp the GLCs equivalent Kland, Cland, CapMall, quality all recorded GLCs similar Kepcorp, Semmarine, Semcorp, SIA Sound and Affirm, Starhub, M1, DBS...In the casing if commodity prices gravitation, the Banks. will be stirred. if you are prepared to head a anticipate, go try out ANZ's residence loan. I got 3mths SOR + 0.75% for all 30yrs. No refinance penalization also .HDB give is not a favour for thing. yes, cant rates are modify NOW, but do deal state, Structure loans are for 20 - 30 years, which valuate testament be much stable or HDB give? If I'm on it, I leave never refinance out to cant for whatsoever reasonableness, coz it gives me a serenity of intention.Pontiac Power Steering Gear Box Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauer 15 Report post Posted October 6, 2011 You're right! Bank loan is meant for people who dare to take risk.. We have decided to use HDB loan. Had sign OTP for the new house.Now praying hard my current house is able to sell at a good price.I don't understand why a "bank loan is meant for people who dared to take risk"? If a bank is offering a lower interest rate than HDB, then to me why not? But it is true that a bank is quicker to react (and act) when a loan repayment date has lapsed, when compared to HDB.If indeed that banks are financing more "risk-taking" people for housing, I don't believe that the interest rates offered can be lower than HDB's.Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MsChoong 1 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 I've just got a reply from a banker...she said the rate of 5 years is 2.98%. Why is DBS rate so low? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keltan8 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2011 Refinanced with same bank with the following package:1yr = 3mth Sibor + 0.65%2yr = 3mth Sibor + 0.7%3yr = 3mht Sibor + 0.7%Lock-in period 2yr.Thanks guy for your feedback.hi, i also need to borrow from bank for my next resale ... but dont understand at all the loan packages ???what does above means ?? 1yr = 3mth Sibor + 0.65%Can someone explain with an example ( thank you very much in advance )I got 1 from DBS ( 3 yrs fixed rate ) :Yr 1 = 1.18% fixedYr 2 = 1.68% fixedYr 3 = 1.98% fixedYr 4 = 3M Sibor + 1.25%Yr 5 = 3M Sibor + 1.25%Thereafter = 3M Sibor + 1.25%Commitment Period = 3 yrsClawback Period = 3 yrs ( what is this ???)Can experts pls enlighten me ??? what is SIBOR ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bepgof 20 Report post Posted October 13, 2011 hi, i also need to borrow from bank for my next resale ... but dont understand at all the loan packages ???what does above means ?? 1yr = 3mth Sibor + 0.65%Can someone explain with an example ( thank you very much in advance )I got 1 from DBS ( 3 yrs fixed rate ) :Yr 1 = 1.18% fixedYr 2 = 1.68% fixedYr 3 = 1.98% fixedYr 4 = 3M Sibor + 1.25%Yr 5 = 3M Sibor + 1.25%Thereafter = 3M Sibor + 1.25%Commitment Period = 3 yrsClawback Period = 3 yrs ( what is this ???)Can experts pls enlighten me ??? what is SIBOR ?Sibor stands for Singapore InterBank Offered Rate , Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIBORDaily rate of sibor fluctuates a lot at different time within day. To make it "smooth", there are 1,3,6,9,12 month moving average offers in the market. Believe you understand what is moving average. (1+2+3+...30)/30 = MA1, (2+3+4+...31)/30 = MA2, so on and so forth. Read this useful link.http://smp-consulting.com.sg/smpc/?option=com_content&view=article&id=62Commitment period = clawback period = lock-in period. Meaning that within this sipulated period, if you make a FULL Redemption to the loan amount, then the borrower will be subjected to some "penalty", could be in term of those "freebie" when sign up the package. After this period, you are "free" to terminate the package and switch to other package with other banks....http://www.homeloan.com.sg/bestrate.htmlUsually, for sibor or sor, there come no lockin period. Of course, there follow some other T&Cs.Tot I studied accounting & finance, like you, when I first took bank loan, also blur blur, later read up slowly bit by bit. Now I'm having 3rd bk loan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keltan8 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2011 Sibor stands for Singapore InterBank Offered Rate , Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIBORDaily rate of sibor fluctuates a lot at different time within day. To make it "smooth", there are 1,3,6,9,12 month moving average offers in the market. Believe you understand what is moving average. (1+2+3+...30)/30 = MA1, (2+3+4+...31)/30 = MA2, so on and so forth. Read this useful link.http://smp-consulting.com.sg/smpc/?option=com_content&view=article&id=62Commitment period = clawback period = lock-in period. Meaning that within this sipulated period, if you make a FULL Redemption to the loan amount, then the borrower will be subjected to some "penalty", could be in term of those "freebie" when sign up the package. After this period, you are "free" to terminate the package and switch to other package with other banks....http://www.homeloan.com.sg/bestrate.htmlUsually, for sibor or sor, there come no lockin period. Of course, there follow some other T&Cs.Tot I studied accounting & finance, like you, when I first took bank loan, also blur blur, later read up slowly bit by bit. Now I'm having 3rd bk loan.bepgof, thank-you you again ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MsChoong 1 Report post Posted October 14, 2011 Sibor stands for Singapore InterBank Offered Rate , Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIBORDaily rate of sibor fluctuates a lot at different time within day. To make it "smooth", there are 1,3,6,9,12 month moving average offers in the market. Believe you understand what is moving average. (1+2+3+...30)/30 = MA1, (2+3+4+...31)/30 = MA2, so on and so forth. Read this useful link.http://smp-consulting.com.sg/smpc/?option=com_content&view=article&id=62Commitment period = clawback period = lock-in period. Meaning that within this sipulated period, if you make a FULL Redemption to the loan amount, then the borrower will be subjected to some "penalty", could be in term of those "freebie" when sign up the package. After this period, you are "free" to terminate the package and switch to other package with other banks....http://www.homeloan.com.sg/bestrate.htmlUsually, for sibor or sor, there come no lockin period. Of course, there follow some other T&Cs.Tot I studied accounting & finance, like you, when I first took bank loan, also blur blur, later read up slowly bit by bit. Now I'm having 3rd bk loan.A helpful post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
renoseeker 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2011 Sibor stands for Singapore InterBank Offered Rate , Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIBORDaily rate of sibor fluctuates a lot at different time within day. To make it "smooth", there are 1,3,6,9,12 month moving average offers in the market. Believe you understand what is moving average. (1+2+3+...30)/30 = MA1, (2+3+4+...31)/30 = MA2, so on and so forth. Read this useful link.http://smp-consultin...w=article&id=62Commitment period = clawback period = lock-in period. Meaning that within this sipulated period, if you make a FULL Redemption to the loan amount, then the borrower will be subjected to some "penalty", could be in term of those "freebie" when sign up the package. After this period, you are "free" to terminate the package and switch to other package with other banks....http://www.homeloan....g/bestrate.htmlUsually, for sibor or sor, there come no lockin period. Of course, there follow some other T&Cs.Tot I studied accounting & finance, like you, when I first took bank loan, also blur blur, later read up slowly bit by bit. Now I'm having 3rd bk loan.haha same...need to read slowly to understand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matrix0405 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2012 SOR and Sibor climbing. 3M Sibor 0.39%, 1M SOR 0.4%.Saw a 1mth SOR promo package1st yr: SOR + 0.5%2nd yr: SOR + 0.75%3rd yr: SOR + 1.25% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matrix0405 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2012 3M Sibor remain 0.38%, while 1M SOR drops to 0.23%DBS has a package 3M Sibor + 0.65%, 2 yr lockin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsll 2 Report post Posted February 25, 2012 Just confirmed my loan from DBS too.0.75% + 1M sibor (through out) with no lock-in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumbopanther 2 Report post Posted February 29, 2012 My loan: 1 mth Sibor + 0.65% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTN 0 Report post Posted March 18, 2012 My loan: 1 mth Sibor + 0.65% mind telling which bank?most are quoting 70-80 bp above SIBOR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites