steveong 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 Folks, any advice how to construct the cabinet to withstand the heat from built in oven? Will stainless steel panel on the 4-side of the wall(top, back, left & right helps? I heard the heat emitted from such oven will cause your cabinet to fade earlier especially white color cabinet which can become yellowish less than a yr if you're a heavy user. Also, I believe the heat will spoil things stored in the nearby cabinet. Can anyone enlighten me. Thks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yumiko 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) Folks, any advice how to construct the cabinet to withstand the heat from built in oven? Will stainless steel panel on the 4-side of the wall(top, back, left & right helps? I heard the heat emitted from such oven will cause your cabinet to fade earlier especially white color cabinet which can become yellowish less than a yr if you're a heavy user. Also, I believe the heat will spoil things stored in the nearby cabinet. Can anyone enlighten me. Thks. this is not true...build in oven actually emit heat from the front not from side. When I bake, the side cabinet couldnt feel heat at all, but when I peep at my cake in front of the oven glass door, it is really hot. I cant imagine some people actually put the oven underneath the hob. While baking chicken, how do they cook with the hob at the same time? it must be very hot, can feel burning leg then..unless the oven is just a showcase Edited March 11, 2011 by yumiko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emobebe 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 this is not true...build in oven actually emit heat from the front not from side. When I bake, the side cabinet couldnt feel heat at all, but when I peep at my cake in front of the oven glass door, it is really hot. I cant imagine some people actually put the oven underneath the hob. While baking chicken, how do they cook with the hob at the same time? it must be very hot, can feel burning leg then..unless the oven is just a showcase Hi Yumiko, Thanks for sharing. Actually I never thought of this till someone mentioned about the heat. I was suggested by one of the IDs to put below the hob. He said since i seldom bake and I won't be using the hob at the same time, so to save space just put it there. But my main concern is about the safety cos I will be using cyclinder gas. So if i were to put the hob and oven together top and bottom and by the side is cyclinder gas. Will there be any safety issue?? Hope someone can clarify this. Note: Was thinking to use citygas but the flat don't have this kind of facility...sighs! Emobebe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yumiko 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) Hi Yumiko, Thanks for sharing. Actually I never thought of this till someone mentioned about the heat. I was suggested by one of the IDs to put below the hob. He said since i seldom bake and I won't be using the hob at the same time, so to save space just put it there. But my main concern is about the safety cos I will be using cyclinder gas. So if i were to put the hob and oven together top and bottom and by the side is cyclinder gas. Will there be any safety issue?? Hope someone can clarify this. Note: Was thinking to use citygas but the flat don't have this kind of facility...sighs! Emobebe Hi Emobebe, I think placing the oven below the hob ONLY if the kitchen is really really running out of space. I dont think it will be an issue (in my shallow opinion lah...) with the side is cylinder gas; since the oven emit heat from front not side wise. But, another concern about placing the oven below - everytime when you bake or peep at the cake, u have to squat, I find it very tiring lor... Edited March 11, 2011 by yumiko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emobebe 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 Hi Emobebe, I think placing the oven below the hob ONLY if the kitchen is really really running out of space. I dont think it will be an issue (in my shallow opinion lah...) with the side is cylinder gas; since the oven emit heat from front not side wise. But, another concern about placing the oven below - everytime when you bake or peep at the cake, u have to squat, I find it very tiring lor... I need more storage...maybe because of this reason that why my this ID suggested me to put it there. Btw, I think I only will bake two to three times a year... I have ever thought to put besides the fridge but scare it may damage the fridge in long term... Emobebe 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marshmallow 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 I need more storage...maybe because of this reason that why my this ID suggested me to put it there. Btw, I think I only will bake two to three times a year... I have ever thought to put besides the fridge but scare it may damage the fridge in long term... Emobebe if you only baked 2 or 3 times per year, how about considering those 3-in-1 microwave oven? (microwave + steam + convection oven) it saves you space and also $$ cos you won't spend on a microwave and an oven separately~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emobebe 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 if you only baked 2 or 3 times per year, how about considering those 3-in-1 microwave oven? (microwave + steam + convection oven) it saves you space and also $$ cos you won't spend on a microwave and an oven separately~ Well, actually i want to hack the existing kitchen cabinets and this oven is already fix in there and was bought by seller one year ago. Sighs...If i don't have oven, I have same idea as you...save money and save space.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yumiko 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 Well, actually i want to hack the existing kitchen cabinets and this oven is already fix in there and was bought by seller one year ago. Sighs...If i don't have oven, I have same idea as you...save money and save space.... wah, so nice...you have some 'treasure' left by the seller. unlike mine, everything has to be gone!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marshmallow 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 Well, actually i want to hack the existing kitchen cabinets and this oven is already fix in there and was bought by seller one year ago. Sighs...If i don't have oven, I have same idea as you...save money and save space.... oh, oh..... maybe you can try to sell the oven on RT and use the money to buy the 3-in-1 wah, so nice...you have some 'treasure' left by the seller. unlike mine, everything has to be gone!! same here.... mine also got nothing... previous occupants didn't even have a single bed! all slept on mattresses! my colleague just got his new home, the entire kitchen no need to reno, and comes with all hob, hood, built-in oven etc! all in good conditions.... envious siah~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveong 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 this is not true...build in oven actually emit heat from the front not from side. When I bake, the side cabinet couldnt feel heat at all, but when I peep at my cake in front of the oven glass door, it is really hot. I cant imagine some people actually put the oven underneath the hob. While baking chicken, how do they cook with the hob at the same time? it must be very hot, can feel burning leg then..unless the oven is just a showcase Thanks for the advice. It's true that the heat will come straight from the front but I was told that the overall cabinet will still be hot and in due time all the accumulation of heat will cause the exterior of the cabinet to decay prematurely THus i was thinking to put stainless steel panel to cover the inner part of the cabinet as a form of dissipating the heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmgthatsme 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 Thanks for the advice. It's true that the heat will come straight from the front but I was told that the overall cabinet will still be hot and in due time all the accumulation of heat will cause the exterior of the cabinet to decay prematurely THus i was thinking to put stainless steel panel to cover the inner part of the cabinet as a form of dissipating the heat. Wood itself is an insulator. The built in ovens are designed just for that purpose and shouldn't cause any issue. I am using currently an old SMEG oven (nothing fancy at all) under the SMEG hob. The fixtures are donkeys years old and no issues with the cabinets. The use of stainless steel plates will not do anything as steel is a heat conductor not insulator. The point raised about having to squat or bend when using the oven is valid but not an issue if you're going to use this only a few times a year. Be careful though when you open a hot oven placed below the hob as a cloud of hot air will rapidly rise upwards as soon as the door is opened so stand with your face back out of the way when you open the door. I also have a National (Genius Serries) convection/microwave 42L oven which does a great job with simple baking and roasts etc. Hope this helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creatrixnator 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) if you only baked 2 or 3 times per year, how about considering those 3-in-1 microwave oven? (microwave + steam + convection oven) it saves you space and also $$ cos you won't spend on a microwave and an oven separately~ is microwave + steam + convection really cheaper? http://www.courts.com.sg/Products/CourtsSt...s)/Default.aspx i see from panasonic 900 and above if have enough counter space can go for separate oven and microwave....100 + 200 only. (i don't have..) built in oven 600-700 + microwave 100-200...still cheaper than 3 in 1 if above pricing is correct. edit: hmm i just see one 799...but still not cheap Edited March 11, 2011 by creatrixnator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emobebe 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2011 is microwave + steam + convection really cheaper? http://www.courts.com.sg/Products/CourtsSt...s)/Default.aspx i see from panasonic 900 and above if have enough counter space can go for separate oven and microwave....100 + 200 only. (i don't have..) built in oven 600-700 + microwave 100-200...still cheaper than 3 in 1 if above pricing is correct. edit: hmm i just see one 799...but still not cheap nowadays, everything also not cheap...inflation and inflation....LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites