csingeu 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 ya loh, when can we go over marshmallow house to have a look? i also planning to have frameless glass door for my toilet. hehehe... hmmm... what your wife wants to use the utility room for is very valid. When you have babies then they grow up to be toddlers then going primary school, there are lots of things for you to keep in storeroom. Then you will realise you should not have knock the utility room. Unless you plan to move to bigger place when you have kids lah... Anyway, i think the storeroom is here to stay... maybe 10 yrs later.. if going to do renovation again (when kids are bigger), then think abt it la... think no island kitchen also... we not the super-cookers type... though my dad, who's the cook at home, wants me to have a bigger kitchen and kitchen entrance... hmmm i guess the issue here is that the room is too big as a storeroom but too small to be of other better use~ i remembered one of the side is ~2880mm (if my memory is not failing)~ this is almost like a common room size liao... haha yes... it's 2.8 x 2.4m... BUT... if you look at my other normal-sized bedrooms, it's 3.3 x 3.9m or 3.5 x 4.2m. so normal standard sized bedroom should be ard 3 x 4m la 2.4 x 2.8m ... think can only squeeze in a small single bedroom and maybe a small 2-door standalone wardrobe. plus wife doesn't agree that anyone should be staying in the small claustophobic place. can use it as a small study room, next time, i guess... just that, no aircon, not much natural lighting and ventilation (coz the side window is freaking small)... unless, doing it like RimBlock's way... which is to push the existing grilles and main door to flush with the access corridor, and maybe change the internal walls to glass partition... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
csingeu 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 Hi Csingeu, I will advise you against the idea of a down hang sliding door for your balcony. Being frameless and at 2.5 meters, there is bound to be movement from the wind blowing. For a bigger panel of glass, for it to be stronger, it has to be tempered.Tempered is strong as in rigid, but being rigid, it is prone to be brittle. Chances of it breaking is very high. Not only will water come in, noise, wind and heat will escape. From your other threads, you want a hts. Having a frameless sliding door is not practical. If you want a nice down hang sliding door system internally, the best looking and solid engineering imho is at interior affairs. I was admiring their German design and made down hang sliding door system. Simple, clean cut and fool proof. Very nice. If you think the glass panel is too big, for example, a four panel sliding door, tell the contractor you want a six panel door. Advantages of more panels, bigger door opening and easier to open. Disadvantage is cost. Hope this helps. thanks for your advice! think wife and me concluded that the frameless top-hung sliding doors not suitable for my balcony, for reasons you and Alex have mentioned. looking at 6-panel, 3 track sliding balcony doors, so that it can open wider... but wife's concern that the extra panels = extra frames = more "blockage" of view... price-wise => according to Alex, they go by $ psf, so 2 track or 3 track, 4 or 6 panels... same pricing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LADY_R 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 Ok.. would want to go try anyway, yeah.. i think the utility room is quite f***ed-up... the size is not here not there... think the 5-rm EM which Soichiro has... it's really like normal HDB storeroom size (i think so ah...) and for the 2nd gen EM whereby the balcony is square & at the corner, connected to the living room and kitchen. think their lower level room is actually "Bedroom 3 / Study Room"... which is almost like the standard size bedroom. so if i hack the utility room, i don't have a storeroom. if i dun hack, it might be an oversized "waste space". SIGH. If she still want a store room mayb (just my suggestion hor) u can hack the wall down and cover with a sliding door right after the column. By doing this u still have a store room and its not too big or too small sample Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marshmallow 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 Anyway, i think the storeroom is here to stay... maybe 10 yrs later.. if going to do renovation again yes... it's 2.8 x 2.4m... BUT... if you look at my other normal-sized bedrooms, it's 3.3 x 3.9m or 3.5 x 4.2m. so normal standard sized bedroom should be ard 3 x 4m la 2.4 x 2.8m ... think can only squeeze in a small single bedroom and maybe a small 2-door standalone wardrobe. plus wife doesn't agree that anyone should be staying in the small claustophobic place. can use it as a small study room, next time, i guess... just that, no aircon, not much natural lighting and ventilation (coz the side window is freaking small)... unless, doing it like RimBlock's way... which is to push the existing grilles and main door to flush with the access corridor, and maybe change the internal walls to glass partition... envious envious... your rooms are so big~ my MBR is 3.3 x 3.7 only, and common room is 2.8 x 3.3.... that's why i said your utility room is similar to a common room (well, my common room, that is). my bro's bedroom at my parents' place, only a pathetic 6 ft x 4.5 ft and there was no windows.... (okie, that's not in Singapore, so cannot compare ) thanks for your advice! think wife and me concluded that the frameless top-hung sliding doors not suitable for my balcony, for reasons you and Alex have mentioned. looking at 6-panel, 3 track sliding balcony doors, so that it can open wider... but wife's concern that the extra panels = extra frames = more "blockage" of view... price-wise => according to Alex, they go by $ psf, so 2 track or 3 track, 4 or 6 panels... same pricing. hmmmm no mah, extra panels allow the open area to be bigger, why blockage of view? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
May_dream1 14 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 envious envious... your rooms are so big~ my MBR is 3.3 x 3.7 only, and common room is 2.8 x 3.3.... that's why i said your utility room is similar to a common room (well, my common room, that is). my bro's bedroom at my parents' place, only a pathetic 6 ft x 4.5 ft and there was no windows.... (okie, that's not in Singapore, so cannot compare ) hmmmm no mah, extra panels allow the open area to be bigger, why blockage of view? my MBR is suppose to be 3mx5.5m. I think its slightly bigger than other MBR? but after hacking, it will be 6.2mx5.5m. Hhhmm.... is it a good size? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
csingeu 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2011 envious envious... your rooms are so big~ my MBR is 3.3 x 3.7 only, and common room is 2.8 x 3.3.... that's why i said your utility room is similar to a common room (well, my common room, that is). my bro's bedroom at my parents' place, only a pathetic 6 ft x 4.5 ft and there was no windows.... (okie, that's not in Singapore, so cannot compare ) hmmmm no mah, extra panels allow the open area to be bigger, why blockage of view? Ohh, i was comparing the size of the utility room, relative to my bedrooms... anyway, the other day, i also looking at the tiles on my floor, to visualize how big the space is. not very big lor... and hor... the 2.4 x 2.8m include the thickness of the wall. so if minus away 10cm-thick wall from which side, the internal floor are of the utility room is prob 2.2 x 2.6m... or actually, why not next time, you all pop by and have a look for yourself. LOL... it's really small (but definitely better than a storeroom la). extra panels allow open area to be bigger, when it's OPENED. when it's closed, if during rainy day or so, the extra panels => extra frames => extra "blockages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boyblunder 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2011 The kitchen and wash area Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boyblunder 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2011 That's all the pics i have for now wor. Now busy at work, will update more next week. Also, dunno whether to go for contractor now or id since i just wanna do basic stuff. Headache!!!!!!!!!!!! Any advice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boyblunder 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2011 <!--quoteo(post=617586:date=Mar 10 2011, 05:22 PM:name=LADY_R)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LADY_R @ Mar 10 2011, 05:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=617586"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->mine, they estimate for a normal glass staircase 5m to 6m run abt $3.5k.. but I tink I have to abort d plan..not enough budget for us <img src="http://www.renotalk.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->me too... i'm looking at cheaper way to do my railings... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> <!--quoteo(post=617594:date=Mar 10 2011, 05:35 PM:name=boyblunder)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (boyblunder @ Mar 10 2011, 05:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=617594"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Laying of teak planks and parquet strips at staircase <b> 3.36k</b>Chengah decking at balcony approx 10x2 m <b>2.4k</b><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->hmm, seems like the minimum is 3k plus for the staircase.... hmmm, maybe i go without railings first, safe up for few months and do my glass railings later <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />I mangaged to get quotes from outside for glass railing with stainless steel. I got this pic from the maker. Prob cost me about slightly more than 4k at $400 per m run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boyblunder 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2011 Finally took over the place from the previous owner, both of us still cannot believe we have a place of our own. Well, We are still cracking our head over the design and layout of the kitchen. But we have now bought our sys 4 aircon from mitsubishi. Also bought this cooker today on impulse!!!!!!!!Ordered the above cooker but thinking if i should change my order to the one below. It has nice and unique knobs but with a modern kitchen i dunno whether it will fit in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kobelala 8 Report post Posted April 27, 2011 I mangaged to get quotes from outside for glass railing with stainless steel. I got this pic from the maker. Prob cost me about slightly more than 4k at $400 per m run.Hi Boyblunder, I think 4k is reasonable, if the glass is at least 12mm tempered... Hmmm, u're making me do u mind sharing the source Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
666 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2011 Glass with wood look so much better, stainless steel doesnt blend well with glass..Ur la germania stove reminds me of the stove my mum uses in early 1980s, not sure hw u gonna design ur kitchen by using the stove.Looks expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potatoes 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2011 <!--quoteo(post=617872:date=Mar 11 2011, 02:30 PM:name=May_dream1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (May_dream1 @ Mar 11 2011, 02:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=617872"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->ya loh, when can we go over marshmallow house to have a look? i also planning to have frameless glass door for my toilet. hehehe...hmmm... what your wife wants to use the utility room for is very valid. When you have babies then they grow up to be toddlers then going primary school, there are lots of things for you to keep in storeroom. Then you will realise you should not have knock the utility room. Unless you plan to move to bigger place when you have kids lah...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Anyway, i think the storeroom is here to stay... maybe 10 yrs later.. if going to do renovation again (when kids are bigger), then think abt it la...think no island kitchen also... we not the super-cookers type... though my dad, who's the cook at home, wants me to have a bigger kitchen and kitchen entrance... <img src="http://www.renotalk.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /><!--quoteo(post=617879:date=Mar 11 2011, 02:40 PM:name=marshmallow)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (marshmallow @ Mar 11 2011, 02:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=617879"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->hmmm i guess the issue here is that the room is too big as a storeroom but too small to be of other better use~ <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />i remembered one of the side is ~2880mm (if my memory is not failing)~ this is almost like a common room size liao... haha<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><img src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3400476/renotalk/floorplan/preferred%20floorplan%204.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />yes... it's 2.8 x 2.4m... BUT... if you look at my other normal-sized bedrooms, it's 3.3 x 3.9m or 3.5 x 4.2m.so normal standard sized bedroom should be ard 3 x 4m la2.4 x 2.8m ... think can only squeeze in a small single bedroom and maybe a small 2-door standalone wardrobe.plus wife doesn't agree that anyone should be staying in the small claustophobic place. can use it as a small study room, next time, i guess...just that, no aircon, not much natural lighting and ventilation (coz the side window is freaking small)... unless, doing it like RimBlock's way... which is to push the existing grilles and main door to flush with the access corridor, and maybe change the internal walls to glass partition... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />Hi, I have exactly the same floor plan. I am going to keep the utility room but is there a possiblity of making it bigger? I like RimsBlock suggestion ... which is "to push the existing grilles and main door to flush with the access corridor, and maybe change the internal walls to glass partition..."Anyone tried doing this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
May_dream1 14 Report post Posted April 27, 2011 The stove does look very expensive. How much does it costs? Also, congrats for being the official owner of your EM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LADY_R 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2011 Hi Boyblunder, I think 4k is reasonable, if the glass is at least 12mm tempered... Hmmm, u're making me do u mind sharing the source can share with me too.. TIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
