donal5 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2011 Hi All, I am wondering if any of forumers use Philips downlights (without ballast)? Any recommendation whether to use downlights with or without ballast? The Philips downlights are more expensive, about $38 (2 bulbs 6 inch no ballast), whereas other brand with ballast cost $20+. I talked to the person in lightnings.com.sg and he mentioned that ballast also consumed power, so talking about saving energy, without ballast is more energy saving. But I am wondering whether the one without ballast will cause the bulb not to last long? Any experience with the ones without ballast? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neubie 2 Report post Posted January 19, 2011 Hi All, I am wondering if any of forumers use Philips downlights (without ballast)? Any recommendation whether to use downlights with or without ballast? The Philips downlights are more expensive, about $38 (2 bulbs 6 inch no ballast), whereas other brand with ballast cost $20+. I talked to the person in lightnings.com.sg and he mentioned that ballast also consumed power, so talking about saving energy, without ballast is more energy saving. But I am wondering whether the one without ballast will cause the bulb not to last long? Any experience with the ones without ballast? Thanks All fluorescent lighting MUST come with some current-limiting devices such as ballast, be it magnetic (choke) or electronic ones. Philips sells E27 PLL lamps (aka tornado lamps) that comes built-in electronic ballast and will cost slightly more expensive. so it would appear that their bulbs need not use ballast. I am using their flicker-free instant-on philips tornadoes. so far so good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donal5 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2011 All fluorescent lighting MUST come with some current-limiting devices such as ballast, be it magnetic (choke) or electronic ones. Philips sells E27 PLL lamps (aka tornado lamps) that comes built-in electronic ballast and will cost slightly more expensive. so it would appear that their bulbs need not use ballast. I am using their flicker-free instant-on philips tornadoes. so far so good. Hi neubie, so you are using the Philips downlights with built-in ballast in the bulb. I am wondering if this can last long or not? Mind share your exp, how long have you had this? I think the bulb is roughly double the price of the regular ones, ard $6. Is this correct? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neubie 2 Report post Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Hi neubie, so you are using the Philips downlights with built-in ballast in the bulb. I am wondering if this can last long or not? Mind share your exp, how long have you had this? I think the bulb is roughly double the price of the regular ones, ard $6. Is this correct? Thanks Apologies, my mistake, I am using Genie series 14W warm-white lamps which has a lifespan of >4 yrs based on average daily operating hour of 5 hours... Edited January 19, 2011 by neubie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donal5 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2011 Apologies, my mistake, I am using Genie series 14W warm-white lamps which has a lifespan of >4 yrs based on average daily operating hour of 5 hours... No problem, that's what I thought also as the tornado may not fit in 2 bulb socket. Thanks for sharing the info. I think I am going with Philips even at a higher price, as I only have 12 downlights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites