Can Fs Apply Black Magic ?

[bepgof 20]

Morality is a very fragile attribute which one may fall towards the opposite side given temptation arises.

Every profession has their moral law and guideline......but the percentage of those who actually practices it is still a question.

Like TTD & M.Y.?

Only from behaviours, ones able to tell one's morality.

Morality is intangible and "expensive", already "hard to find" nowaday.

For black magic i've only read of from those Thailand witch doctors casting love charm.

I'm not quite aware what FSM can actually do with Bazi on the reverse side......quite interested to know that.

By theory and in short, 4 pillar template unveils one's

- "strong points" &

- "weak points" with time dimensions

Tellers therefore recommend the "best-fit" or "best-mix" via "sheng & ke" functions to clients.

To ease your thirst, reverse sides applications can be:

1. True masters know what are the "strongs" and "weaks" of clients. By recommending "worst-mix" can liao.

2. Don't know "templates" well enough, recommending "anyhow-mix" can liao.

Clients whether to implement the " recomended-mix" is another issue. Ok?

Edited December 5, 2010 by bepgof

[Ivy1981 11]

yeah when pple claim to say confirm can Tio 4D i am very skeptical about it. becos most are out to cheat money one. i even have a friend's friend friend. who recommend me to keep a Kumantong for this purpose. i am very kia si. don't dare to do this kinda thing and also afraid that if i keep this kinda small ghosts, my karma will be very bad.

A few years ago, I heard from one of my Aunt some stories on Uncle. They used to be very tight on their financials. Once my Uncle a glass container which has Fu pasted all over. It was believed that within was a foetus. They bought a lot of toys and place sweets here and there. Even eating always reserve and prepare one person's place....according to her. Since then both of them have things going very smooth for them. My uncle's betting on horses always went in. It was then that now I realise why a few times relatives were given a treat when he said he striked 4D. She claimed that toys used to move around.

After about 2 years, Uncle's went into business and failed. Accumulated mountains of debts. They tried to find the person who sold them but couldn't, they disposed it and my Uncle was involved in continous mishaps hence.

Don't know how true, sometimes people's 'believe' can imagine things but those times once a year CNY visit, I always went back home sick for a few days after visiting her.

If you are relating to the Fu LU Shou basement, I heard from one of my ex-colleague also went there to get numbers. Can't remember she paid 80 or 88. She was given a number and was advice to x24. Indeed she got a consolation. Overall means she lost about $40. At first, she was quite impressed about the accuracy. Later we realised that this was just a strategy and probability game. Don't know why probability? PM me....not nice to encourage people gambling.

[Ivy1981 11]

Morality is a very fragile attribute which one may fall towards the opposite side given temptation arises.

Every profession has their moral law and guideline......but the percentage of those who actually practices it is still a question.

For black magic i've only read of from those Thailand witch doctors casting love charm.

I'm not quite aware what FSM can actually do with Bazi on the reverse side......quite interested to know that.

The topic on moral discussion can go a long way especially when one has a religion background. Even those ateist, each have their own conscience which is born within. For a person to be succumbed to temptations, it is considered quite normal. But when even to flaunt a guideline which assumes 'greyish', conscience is the last 'traffic light'. If you say every profession, there is always a line drawn. When ex-chen president and family allowed money to tempt, they have crossed the line. Nick Leeson who make a name in history crossed the line. The recent sla high post fellow who can afford Lamboghini also crossed.

The list is endless.....and crossing the line can mean anything else other than money.

There are still some remnants if you observe.

There are so called black magic in other countries.

Bumohs in Malaysia, thet have knowledge of more than 4000 extracts from herbs, animals, metals and liquids. With the combination of selected spirits using "jampi-jampi'. Some signs are mental block (usually victims can't see a lot of things), compulsive directional movement, foreign growth in body organs.

"Maaw Phee" in Thailand uses "corpse oil". It will be mixed with food you eat.....then you got love charm.

Voodoos of Africa uses dolls, animal heart, needles, nails, hair and victims must also eat or drink "masaan"

Veitnam, India, Indonesia, Philipines all have. It is not surprising some fsms also know.....

[Ivy1981 11]

Like TTD & M.Y.?

Only from behaviours, ones able to tell one's morality.

Morality is intangible and "expensive", already "hard to find" nowaday.

By theory and in short, 4 pillar template unveils one's

- "strong points" &

- "weak points" with time dimensions

Tellers therefore recommend the "best-fit" or "best-mix" via "sheng & ke" functions to clients.

To ease your thirst, reverse sides applications can be:

1. True masters know what are the "strongs" and "weaks" of clients. By recommending "worst-mix" can liao.

2. Don't know "templates" well enough, recommending "anyhow-mix" can liao.

Clients whether to implement the " recomended-mix" is another issue. Ok?

Hard to find is true.....many people including fsms are tempted by their own weakness.....greed, lust, hatred, jealousy etc. That's why for a fsms, its best to spot if they have any principles or ethics and etc. Very often, for fsms, you can observe from their greed for money. I ever bought a 'liu li' near bencoolen. The price was about $120. It claims that it came from Taiwan and even provide a cert. I visited another shop which was run by a fsm and unluckily for him, I spotted a similar one and was quoted $888. You know what's their profit margin? (PS. that was when I was new in feng shui after reading LT)

[kalimantan 6]

A few years ago, I heard from one of my Aunt some stories on Uncle. They used to be very tight on their financials. Once my Uncle a glass container which has Fu pasted all over. It was believed that within was a foetus. They bought a lot of toys and place sweets here and there. Even eating always reserve and prepare one person's place....according to her. Since then both of them have things going very smooth for them. My uncle's betting on horses always went in. It was then that now I realise why a few times relatives were given a treat when he said he striked 4D. She claimed that toys used to move around.

After about 2 years, Uncle's went into business and failed. Accumulated mountains of debts. They tried to find the person who sold them but couldn't, they disposed it and my Uncle was involved in continous mishaps hence.

Don't know how true, sometimes people's 'believe' can imagine things but those times once a year CNY visit, I always went back home sick for a few days after visiting her.

If you are relating to the Fu LU Shou basement, I heard from one of my ex-colleague also went there to get numbers. Can't remember she paid 80 or 88. She was given a number and was advice to x24. Indeed she got a consolation. Overall means she lost about $40. At first, she was quite impressed about the accuracy. Later we realised that this was just a strategy and probability game. Don't know why probability? PM me....not nice to encourage people gambling.

About 4d probabilyt, et I remembered there was a 4d book still sold in the bookshop. That so-called Master earn people's money thru people's greed.

Where got 4d becomes statistics number ? Meaning if this number appear many times, it should be "due" soon.

Many pple did not realise that each draw is INDEPENDENT of last draw. There is no statistics derived from it. Every individual number has equal chance of appearing. Some even buy the software to derive numbers, oh my god !

[catwoman 0]

Like TTD & M.Y.?

Only from behaviours, ones able to tell one's morality.

Morality is intangible and "expensive", already "hard to find" nowaday.

By theory and in short, 4 pillar template unveils one's

- "strong points" &

- "weak points" with time dimensions

Tellers therefore recommend the "best-fit" or "best-mix" via "sheng & ke" functions to clients.

To ease your thirst, reverse sides applications can be:

1. True masters know what are the "strongs" and "weaks" of clients. By recommending "worst-mix" can liao.

2. Don't know "templates" well enough, recommending "anyhow-mix" can liao.

Clients whether to implement the " recomended-mix" is another issue. Ok?

Indeed hard to find. I always feel that to spot these qualities from a master also not easy. The way I see it, I noticed many of them tried to reach for fame. Is fame so important? Yes, it is if they require it for business. The big price tag the big title they embrace also say it all.

Bepgof, shall I quote 'humility' as one of the 'expensive' quality in a master?

[catwoman 0]

Hard to find is true.....many people including fsms are tempted by their own weakness.....greed, lust, hatred, jealousy etc. That's why for a fsms, its best to spot if they have any principles or ethics and etc. Very often, for fsms, you can observe from their greed for money. I ever bought a 'liu li' near bencoolen. The price was about $120. It claims that it came from Taiwan and even provide a cert. I visited another shop which was run by a fsm and unluckily for him, I spotted a similar one and was quoted $888. You know what's their profit margin? (PS. that was when I was new in feng shui after reading LT)

How or what would you consider as principles or ethics of a fsm?

I came across recently one engineer who went about doing part time feng shui for other people. My question is why is he doing part time? Testing water whether can make a living? Or not sure if he will continue long in this trade? I will also assume that being a part-timer, he may not have enough experience or knowledge. In this case, isn't he trial and error on people's house? So is this ethical?

[bepgof 20]

About 4d probabilyt, et I remembered there was a 4d book still sold in the bookshop. That so-called Master earn people's money thru people's greed.

Where got 4d becomes statistics number ? Meaning if this number appear many times, it should be "due" soon.

Many pple did not realise that each draw is INDEPENDENT of last draw. There is no statistics derived from it. Every individual number has equal chance of appearing. Some even buy the software to derive numbers, oh my god !

What you've siad triggered me of the "bell shape" of Normal Distribution in Statistics. I read this "very boring" subject, have one 2-inch thick, 8-inch width and 12-inch length, hard cover reference book at home. Central limit theorem (CLT) holds that independent random variables ( sets of 4-digits) are "normally distributed" = bell shaped.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution

Edited December 6, 2010 by bepgof

[Ivy1981 11]

How or what would you consider as principles or ethics of a fsm?

I came across recently one engineer who went about doing part time feng shui for other people. My question is why is he doing part time? Testing water whether can make a living? Or not sure if he will continue long in this trade? I will also assume that being a part-timer, he may not have enough experience or knowledge. In this case, isn't he trial and error on people's house? So is this ethical?

My criteria for a good FSM is quite similar to Bepgof

1) Must have a kind heart.

2) Must be commited to this profession only

3) Must be knowledgeable in all aspects of fengshui and bazi. Perferably not just one school only.

4) Must able to let people see results or at least nothing bad happens

5) Price list should not keep changing and increasing.

6) Should not sell fs ornaments undeer their own audit. If people want to buy, let them buy elsewhere

7) Don't go for fame.....don't like the celebrity style they are exhibiting....they thought they are what and what......

8) Must be able to predict.....not just quacking about the future but also the immediate current.....at least people like us can judge their accuracy. Otherwise I got to keep a few books of TKY to compare.....

9) Not general predictions but the bullseye on target type

10) Other aspects of admirable characteristics, if any. For example, some evangelist really lead a holy life, you can call that staunch or whatever...at least they stick to a set of beliefs in line with their work. Rather than others who collect tithes meant for the use for the children of god....ends up spending on their own properties.....

One simple way to see if they money face is through their conducting of courses....... some charge $10k, some $20K for one full course, some design those stupid courses (charging each module a few hundred....and you getting thirsty even more after the each module) from elementary Pt 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 then intermediate 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 then advance and give you some more surprise....got master degree and bachelor also.....by that time you goggey I googey liao.....died also don't know can work or not. So courses are scams and are for people who can't get results through practical and settle for theory (usually I mean, no offence to anyone....not offending anyone but if you want to be south korea, I don't mind)

Last time those olden days masters recruit students only have a cup of tea lei. Of course can't compare la but at least don't be a money face.

The one you mentioned above I think I read before.....asiaone right? Something like he himself also got sick passed by his kid. Master level can't avoid sick?

[ngunadi 2]

Slightly different topic but related.

have you watched a US TV Show "The Mentalist"?

It's a crime-detective drama.

The interesting related part is that .. the main character used to be PSYCHIC. The kind of person who can talk to the "dead", a medium, etc. But due to certain events, he stopped doing it and work with the police.

And he actually admitted that he was a con-man. He doesn't believe in PSYCHIC. He actually tricked them using psychology. Using psychology, he can deduce what's the person characters, behaviors, and habits. This make him look like a PSYCHIC.

I wonder whether good fsm has this traits also.

[godloveyou 0]

Slightly different topic but related.

have you watched a US TV Show "The Mentalist"?

It's a crime-detective drama.

The interesting related part is that .. the main character used to be PSYCHIC. The kind of person who can talk to the "dead", a medium, etc. But due to certain events, he stopped doing it and work with the police.

And he actually admitted that he was a con-man. He doesn't believe in PSYCHIC. He actually tricked them using psychology. Using psychology, he can deduce what's the person characters, behaviors, and habits. This make him look like a PSYCHIC.

I wonder whether good fsm has this traits also.

Good example. I supposed masters and mediums should have possessed this trait (born or trained), otherwise their lives will be "difficult".

Edited December 7, 2010 by godloveyou

[Ivy1981 11]

Slightly different topic but related.

have you watched a US TV Show "The Mentalist"?

It's a crime-detective drama.

The interesting related part is that .. the main character used to be PSYCHIC. The kind of person who can talk to the "dead", a medium, etc. But due to certain events, he stopped doing it and work with the police.

And he actually admitted that he was a con-man. He doesn't believe in PSYCHIC. He actually tricked them using psychology. Using psychology, he can deduce what's the person characters, behaviors, and habits. This make him look like a PSYCHIC.

I wonder whether good fsm has this traits also.

Didn't watch....I'm stuck with 爱....then stuck with channel 8.

Well, you may be right....maybe some fsm knows psychology or read body language and deduce characters....

How about those can really read your past.....real psychic or possessed?

[Ivy1981 11]

Good example. I supposed masters and mediums should have possessed this trait (born or trained), otherwise their lives will be "difficult".

Last time I came across pastors who can make people faint by putting their hands on their head....called slain spirit...something like that....what do they (the pastors) possessed?

[godloveyou 0]

Last time I came across pastors who can make people faint by putting their hands on their head....called slain spirit...something like that....what do they (the pastors) possessed?

Only God and the pastor himself know.

[chia90 0]

errm, sorry. i suppose you are referring to past life??

But how does one know if those pple can read pple's past in the 1st place?? who is to validate if it is correct or not...i mean i dun even know my past ...

Didn't watch....I'm stuck with 爱....then stuck with channel 8.

Well, you may be right....maybe some fsm knows psychology or read body language and deduce characters....

How about those can really read your past.....real psychic or possessed?