Push Open Drawer System

[Eurypylus 0]

I've been searching high and low for a push open drawer system after I saw how the blum servo system(out of budget) works.

Is there anything in the market that work w/o electric power? What I want is something that I push and the drawer a bit then manually pull out.

[devion23 0]

Just get those push openers to install onto the drawer front or can also be installed at the rails. Note that the drawer will not be tightly shut in this case as the push opener needs a little gap for it to be pushed & spring release.

[Eurypylus 0]

Just get those push openers to install onto the drawer front or can also be installed at the rails. Note that the drawer will not be tightly shut in this case as the push opener needs a little gap for it to be pushed & spring release.

Thanks for the advise, so all those push open drawer will have gap to invite dust

[tansn 0]

Thanks for the advise, so all those push open drawer will have gap to invite dust

I totally agreed with devion's advice.

Definitely there will be little allowances that invite dust for the push open drawers.

[ugene512 0]

There is another method of construction.

Normally push to open slides are for insert drawers. These are drawers that have front panels flush with the sides of cabinet fronts. The 5mm gap that you need to push the drawer to open it is inside the drawer, hence little dust can enter. Normal drawers construction with panels outside the sides or edges of cabinet carcass need that 5 mm which will invite dust.

Look for this contractor, www.myidfactory.com they make push to open drawers for ID firms.

hey, have you gotten them to do up ur reno>?

[Kovan9988 0]

hey, have you gotten them to do up ur reno>?

Since My ID Factory don't do ID, they only do carpentry using their high tech factory CAD-CAM factory using large robotic machineries for many ID clients, I used one of their client's ID services at Blve & Blue Design Works whose showroom is at 10 Arumugam Rd, #01-10, Lion Building next to MacPherson MRT. Ah... there you can see the push to open slide drawers.

I will be getting their promo offer of $100 pfr for kitchen cabinets and $200 pfr for wardrobe WITH laminate internal finish and of course external laminate finish for doors etc. This price includes Revo Italy soft closing hinges and slides, and for the sink unit they package in free the stainless steel soft closing hinges with no additional charge.

My other ID quoted me kitchen 45 ft with 'laminate finish' at $120 pfr with normal (no soft closing) hinges and slides. When I asked him what is the internal finish since he didn't state the internal finish. My the other quote that I get did not state this too. He said "white internal solid plywood". When pressed further he admitted it is PVC. I told I don't want white, I want light grey, then he said he have colored type too and show me a bunch of Wood grey and colour plywood. I said I want laminate for internal. Then he said laminate very expensive, nobody use in Singapore... People only use colour wood grain plywood which is the type he shown me and added the surface is very hard like laminate which is true. But I remembered that pvc plastics will crack after sometime and they dent and peel easily at the edges like a sticker. He shown me that it is hard to dent using his fingers. Then I took out a coin and pressed it and scratch it ... It became dented and scratched! He said nobody do that... But it is very common to knock the cabinet sides and shelves. He is trying to smoke me. I told him I want a quote on laminate inside finish. After some calls to his carpenters... Oblivously he never quoted this before...he came back with a price of $200 pfr! "But best price $180 pfr!" I told him that my Sister got laminate finish also and there is promo for $100 pfr kitchen with laminate inside finish and with soft close hinges and slides. He said not possible. I told him to visit my ID factory and Blve & Blue. After a few weeks I called him...how? He now works with my ID factory for carpentry works and laminate inside with soft close and their factory is impressive and offer is better than other carpenters.

I like the way My ID Factory constructs their drawers. They use a 5 mm plywood base that is slotted into a groove cut by their computerized woodworking machine using special furniture design software. They hired degreed level mechanical design engineers to programme the furniture manufacturing. Local carpenter uses a very thin plywood like 2 or 3 mm only and nailed it to the drawer base. One of my house drawer fell off because of bad workmanship. I got to buy some nails and nail them myself... Now a bit ugly because some of the nails came off at the side because I did not nail them straight. I cannot be carpenter. It comes with under mounted soft closed slides, cannot see the sides when the drawer is open. This slide is more expensive than side mounted slide.

I am going through another discussion round with Blve & Blue just to be sure. I have seen their showroom and factory contractor. I think i am going for the same wood grain textured laminate for the door and inside... It looks like real wood. I have brought my friend to My ID factory, they also were very impressed and will most likely sign with Blve. We are comparing notes now. Can you go get a quote and see what they quote you and PM me?

[watchthewaves 0]

Since My ID Factory don't do ID, they only do carpentry using their high tech factory CAD-CAM factory using large robotic machineries for many ID clients, I used one of their client's ID services at Blve & Blue Design Works whose showroom is at 10 Arumugam Rd, #01-10, Lion Building next to MacPherson MRT. Ah... there you can see the push to open slide drawers.

I will be getting their promo offer of $100 pfr for kitchen cabinets and $200 pfr for wardrobe WITH laminate internal finish and of course external laminate finish for doors etc. This price includes Revo Italy soft closing hinges and slides, and for the sink unit they package in free the stainless steel soft closing hinges with no additional charge.

My other ID quoted me kitchen 45 ft with 'laminate finish' at $120 pfr with normal (no soft closing) hinges and slides. When I asked him what is the internal finish since he didn't state the internal finish. My the other quote that I get did not state this too. He said "white internal solid plywood". When pressed further he admitted it is PVC. I told I don't want white, I want light grey, then he said he have colored type too and show me a bunch of Wood grey and colour plywood. I said I want laminate for internal. Then he said laminate very expensive, nobody use in Singapore... People only use colour wood grain plywood which is the type he shown me and added the surface is very hard like laminate which is true. But I remembered that pvc plastics will crack after sometime and they dent and peel easily at the edges like a sticker. He shown me that it is hard to dent using his fingers. Then I took out a coin and pressed it and scratch it ... It became dented and scratched! He said nobody do that... But it is very common to knock the cabinet sides and shelves. He is trying to smoke me. I told him I want a quote on laminate inside finish. After some calls to his carpenters... Oblivously he never quoted this before...he came back with a price of $200 pfr! "But best price $180 pfr!" I told him that my Sister got laminate finish also and there is promo for $100 pfr kitchen with laminate inside finish and with soft close hinges and slides. He said not possible. I told him to visit my ID factory and Blve & Blue. After a few weeks I called him...how? He now works with my ID factory for carpentry works and laminate inside with soft close and their factory is impressive and offer is better than other carpenters.

I like the way My ID Factory constructs their drawers. They use a 5 mm plywood base that is slotted into a groove cut by their computerized woodworking machine using special furniture design software. They hired degreed level mechanical design engineers to programme the furniture manufacturing. Local carpenter uses a very thin plywood like 2 or 3 mm only and nailed it to the drawer base. One of my house drawer fell off because of bad workmanship. I got to buy some nails and nail them myself... Now a bit ugly because some of the nails came off at the side because I did not nail them straight. I cannot be carpenter. It comes with under mounted soft closed slides, cannot see the sides when the drawer is open. This slide is more expensive than side mounted slide.

I am going through another discussion round with Blve & Blue just to be sure. I have seen their showroom and factory contractor. I think i am going for the same wood grain textured laminate for the door and inside... It looks like real wood. I have brought my friend to My ID factory, they also were very impressed and will most likely sign with Blve. We are comparing notes now. Can you go get a quote and see what they quote you and PM me?

The detailed info on your ID as well as their factory contractor is certainly informative and useful to all those looking to do carpentry work. Can't help but wonder whether you are related/working for them. If you are, you should just come up front and say it. I personally don't see anything wrong with providing info on a product or service, even if it is your own (forum rules, if any, aside). But just that if there are any connection, that should be disclosed. If you aren't related, then I apologise for reading too much into your previous posts. Maybe there is a simple explanation for these posts that I'm not aware of:

Mar 11: "WOW!!! What a great deal! I am getting my keys at the end of this year, I will do the same too."

http://www.renotalk.com/forum/index.php?sh...mp;#entry623519

Getting quotes and confirming on promo offers now? If so, you are really one of the rare persons who plans so far ahead.

Then, your "other ID" above quoted you $200 or $180pfr for full inside and outside laminate. Or was it $300?

Mar 29: "I got a quote some IDs for $300 pfr for the same laminate inside and outside."

http://www.renotalk.com/forum/index.php?sh...mp;#entry623520

Or maybe it was just a 3rd IDs quote?

Interestingly, Johnchua23 also started detailed posting about the same ID and factory around the same time. Coincidence? Similarly, while I learnt from his postings, I wonder about the relationship again because he said:

Mar 11: "Try this.. Got a quote for kitchen in full laminate finish both inside and outside at $110 per foot run excluding countertop. Www.blveblue.com

Price include soft closing hinges, soft closing slides, stainless steel soft closing hinges for under the sink carcass ... This is great because normal hinges rust fast!

I am visiting factory to check out."

http://www.renotalk.com/forum/index.php?sh...mp;#entry617716

Apr 3: "I saw in the last Sat classifieds some IDs big advert... i think it is BlveBlue at Macperson mrt already offering full laminate finish, inside and outside at $100 pfr for kitchen with the soft close hinges and slides + stainless steel soft close hinges. And $200 pfr for wardrobe in laminate finish for both inside and outside. They say they don't use PVC solid plywood and only laminate solid plywood."

http://www.renotalk.com/forum/index.php?sh...mp;#entry625425

So in March, he got a quote from blveblue, then in April, he saw a classified ad and "thinks" it is Blveblue?

Maybe I'm reading too much into things, if so, I apologise. An explanation of the above statements would be nice though. Otherwise, I hope the relevant parties would be brave enough to just be up front about their interest.

[ugene512 0]

Oh my u really went ahead to check. hahah anyway i just wanna say that i am also looking at stuff from this id and what he says is true.

I have a T-blog pls do check it out as i am not his "accomplice". I find that this deal is actually quite atractive.

Any bro or sis can verify their work?

Edited April 7, 2011 by ugene512

[pinkie19 0]

Oh my u really went ahead to check. hahah anyway i just wanna say that i am also looking at stuff from this id and what he says is true.

I have a T-blog pls do check it out as i am not his "accomplice". I find that this deal is actually quite atractive.

Any bro or sis can verify their work?

I did go to their showroom a few weeks ago @ Lion Bldg. They were still in the midst of doing it up.

But the workmanship (of what was completed) is appalling.

As cheap as they are, I would not be able to accept the quality of their carpentry work.

If they can't even impress based on their showroom... I dare not think what will come out of an actual renovation.

Shudder!

[ayukie 0]

I did go to their showroom a few weeks ago @ Lion Bldg. They were still in the midst of doing it up.

But the workmanship (of what was completed) is appalling.

As cheap as they are, I would not be able to accept the quality of their carpentry work.

If they can't even impress based on their showroom... I dare not think what will come out of an actual renovation.

Shudder!

i went and saw the showrrom the carpentry was pretty nice wor .. except for the wine holders part that was abit appalling but the rest of the cabinets and wardrobe is nice .. feature wall was just abit so-so ...

[ayukie 0]

Oh my u really went ahead to check. hahah anyway i just wanna say that i am also looking at stuff from this id and what he says is true.

I have a T-blog pls do check it out as i am not his "accomplice". I find that this deal is actually quite atractive.

Any bro or sis can verify their work?

i also need help verifying their works but im pretty keen on their kitchen cabinets and wardrobe ..

[Ctkong56 0]

i also need help verifying their works but im pretty keen on their kitchen cabinets and wardrobe ..

They have installed my kitchen cabinets with laminate finish inside and outside as per their specialty since other IDs that I contacted only offer PVC finish inside. I got their offer price of $100 per foot run. I heard they have increased their prices. Quality is ok and i am happy with it. The slides are hidden undermounted type with soft close. Hinges are also soft close and for my sink they include stainless steel soft close hinge with no extra charge. I got a quote from Image at $140 per foot, North West also about $140, but they both want to charge me extra for soft close slides and hinges. Some more their inside of cabinet is only PVC!

Another difference, is BLVE Blue uses 5 mm plywood for drawers in slotted construction, not like other carpenters who use only 3 mm and nail them which sometimes can fall out sometime later if not done properly. BLVE drawers base is with laminates, not PVC and this is good because PVC will scratch when you put your stuff in the drawers and will be very ugly after sometime. For the shelving, of course laminates is better since it is scratch resistance. Otherwise why all IDs use laminates for the door outside and not PVC if PVC is so good! PVC is definitely cheaper than laminates.

On the door panel thickness, BLVE Blue door is 18 mm and most other IDs uses only 15 mm. The * sales guy tried to bull**** me about the thickness and said no one uses 18 mm only 15 mm.

Yesterday, I was at the Expo where the furniture fair is on. BLVE Blue is there. They have a video at the booth showing their factory which i think is very impressive. They invited me there to visit, so when I am free I will go, but very far in Sungei Kadut. They said every enduser that visited them purchased because no IDs and carpenter workshop in Singapore is as high tech as them using the big German computerised precision machines to make the cabinets.

Anyway, BLVE Blue has 2 year warranty on their works. I think it is better to find a larger company than small carpenter or ID who will probably not be around when your cabinets have problems later on. Since they have big factory which they say is about 18,000 sq ft, they should be able to resolve any after sales issues.

So my advise is to visit their factory to verify and see the quality there. I think it is worth your while if you have a lot of carpentry work to be done and see for yourself.

[GrandReno 0]

Looks like there are a lot of fake people posting for my id factory.

Yes, like watchthewaves, I cannot understand why people cannot be frank and come out clean. If you are an employee of my id factory, just say so!

If you feel your product is that good, I don't think anyone will mind if you introduce yourself as so. By lying, you are not giving others a good impression already.

If you want free advertisement, why do it like this? I find it hard to understand how a company that has such a huge factory cannot afford to advertise properly!

Actually, I have one question: If my id factory gives such a good deal, why don't all the other good IDs use them? Think carefully.

To give my opinion, let's just say I will NOT use my id factory for a few big reasons. And I know 2 others in renotalk whom I met who dropped my id factory also. I won't give my reasons, because to each his own. But I have done my research and homework.

Just a word of advice: Be careful.

[Thagoh 0]

I am curious Grandreno. Do you work for an ID or carpentry or are an ID or carpentry company? If so pls pm me your contact.

Edited June 4, 2011 by Thagoh

[lejosef 0]

Looks like there are a lot of fake people posting for my id factory.

Yes, like watchthewaves, I cannot understand why people cannot be frank and come out clean. If you are an employee of my id factory, just say so!

If you feel your product is that good, I don't think anyone will mind if you introduce yourself as so. By lying, you are not giving others a good impression already.

If you want free advertisement, why do it like this? I find it hard to understand how a company that has such a huge factory cannot afford to advertise properly!

Actually, I have one question: If my id factory gives such a good deal, why don't all the other good IDs use them? Think carefully.

To give my opinion, let's just say I will NOT use my id factory for a few big reasons. And I know 2 others in renotalk whom I met who dropped my id factory also. I won't give my reasons, because to each his own. But I have done my research and homework.

Just a word of advice: Be careful.

can you share why? i am really considering them as the prices for carpentry is good. but i am worried after reading some review about them, and now can't find those threads anymore. i think they changed name to lamidoor and are still trying to advertise here.