Quotation For Overhaul Of 5i Flat - Is $60k Reasonable?

[watervapourbaby 0]

Hi Morning star,

Your quote looks a little on the steep side - also, u need to get them to quote u for wiring. I redid my 5rm with 40K budget excluding kitchen and ceiling. But alot of probs now, leaking windows, bad workmanship etc...really regretting not getting a more reliable contractor and pay a bit more. Now my contractor wants us to pay him an additional $3Kplus more as he claims that he did alot of extras on wiring (even though we got a quote from him for that specifically)...we felt so cheated.... Most impt is find a contractor that is trust worthy...Good luck with your reno!

[chronograph 0]

Hi Morning star,

Your quote looks a little on the steep side - also, u need to get them to quote u for wiring. I redid my 5rm with 40K budget excluding kitchen and ceiling. But alot of probs now, leaking windows, bad workmanship etc...really regretting not getting a more reliable contractor and pay a bit more. Now my contractor wants us to pay him an additional $3Kplus more as he claims that he did alot of extras on wiring (even though we got a quote from him for that specifically)...we felt so cheated.... Most impt is find a contractor that is trust worthy...Good luck with your reno!

Don't pay the additional 3k. The more u shouldn't pay since u r not happy with the work and not to mentioned it has been included in the quote so what does he meant by additional....crap talk.

Must have patient looking for contractor, get one that is willing to help solve your problem, that will work within your budget, that will advise you what's wants/needs(usually wants will cost more), have pride in their work. Cheap doesn't mean always good. Must check out their workmanship, visit their current work sites to have a look at the work done.

[morningstar 0]

Hi all,

Thanks for the all the advice! Think I dun have patience to go brief every contractor on my specifications, view their worksite, and also see if I get along well with them! Really so many factors to consider when engaging contractor. I agree with all that price is not everything, must look at other factors too. Sigh, so I bargain and talk to the contractor and finally manage to cut by another 3K. But i will take out some carpentry works and futher reduce my costs.

I am also thinking of outsourcing some works like windows, floorings, main door, carpentry etc. but not sure whether my current quote is on the high side or not. May have to do some research there. Anyway to be fair, my 5I is the old HDB flat type so its rather big at 137sqm. Maybe thats why my quotation is so high.

[LSJ 0]

Hi experts,

Been a slient reader on this forum but really hope to have your help here.

We have looked around for IDs/contractors the past few mths and have finally shortlisted two of them.

One of the contractors provided us the quote of 60K (list below) and we tried to negotiate for a reduction of a $4-5K esp on the carpentry works (seem quite costly).

However, my contractor's response was that my budget is too tight and they rather forego my biz. This is really discouraging to us cos it means that we may have to up our budget or go through the whole cycle of looking for other contractors.

Are we asking for too much discount? We are thinking of removing all carpentry works on the guest/study/entertainment room to reduce costs as its only me and my husband now. My questions are:

1) Is there any areas in the quotation that I can reduce costs?

2) Any general renovation costs that are not captured in the quotation below? (trying to minimise VO)

Would greatly appreciate your comments. Thanks!

Item Description Amt (S$)

Project Management

* Design Conceptualization, Space Planning, Colour Scheme

and Materials Proposal for the Whole House, Site Inspection

and Whole House Cleaning.

1 Demolishing Works

To supply labour and materials to hack and dismantle the existing

following items: -

a) Living/dining/ entertainment room floor tiles and skirting

b) 3 bedrooms floor tiles and skirting

c) Kitchen wall and floor tiles

d) 2 bathrooms floor and wall tiles

e) Existing kitchen cabinet

f) Existing door and window frame between kitchen and service 2,380.00

yard

g) Service yard floor tiles

h) Wall panel between living and kitchen area

i) Wall panel at master bedroom

j) New door opening at common bathroom

k) Existing false ceiling and cornices

l) Existing wardrobe at 3 bedrooms

m 2nos.of toilet bowl

n) 2nos.of wash basin

o) 1no.of rubbish chute

Sub - Total (S$): 2,380.00

2 Masonry Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) Lay 600 x 600mm imported China homogenous floor tiles at 3,850.00

proposed storeroom, living/dining room and passageway to

bedrooms c/w skirting (tiles up to $3.00 range)

b) Lay imported ceramic/homogenous wall tiles up to ceiling height 2,500.00

for 2 bathrooms exclude border and décor tiles (tiles up to

$2.50 range)

c) Lay imported homogenous floor tiles at 2 bathrooms c/w 840.00

waterproofing membrane treatment (tiles up to $3.00 range)

d) Lay imported 600 x 600mm homogenous floor tiles at proposed 480.00

wet kitchen area c/w waterproofing membrane treatment (tiles

up to $3.00 range)

e) Lay imported 600 x 600mm homogenous floor tiles at service 480.00

yard area c/w waterproofing membrane treatment (tiles up to

$3.00 range)

f) Construct 2" thick shower kerb at 2 bathrooms clad with tiles F.O.C.

g) Construct 2" thick cement mortar base for fridge and washing 160.00

machine clad with tiles

h) Construct 2" thick cement mortar base for kitchen cabinet clad 180.00

with verticle tiles

i) Install 1no.of stainless steel flat rubbish chute 180.00

j) Seal up existing common bathroom entrance using HDB 250.00

approved 63mm thick hollow block c/w cement plaster

k) Erect common bathroom wall using HDB approved 63mm 480.00

thick hollow block c/w cement plaster

l) Lay cement plaster for proposed wet kitchen and sevice yard 200.00

wall

m) Raise up existing kitchen floor to level up with living room floor 300.00

using HDB approved extruded polystrene foam (EPF)

n) Patch up, make good area after hacking F.O.C.

o) Lay cement screeding to 3 bedrooms and proposed 750.00

entertainment room

p) Construct 14ft L hollow block wall up to ceiling for master toilet 640.00

entrance, store & kitchen entrance.

q) Construct L shape kitchen cabinet base at dry kitchen 150.00

Sub - Total (S$): 11,440.00

3 Carpentry Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) Construct 3ft designed low height shoe cabinet cum storage 450.00

at proposed foyer area using solid plywood with selected

laminate finishing

b) Construct 9ft designed full height feature wall c/w cushion and 2,000.00

tinted mirror **** room area using solid plywood with

selected laminate finishing

c) Construct 9ft designed suspended TV console **** room 1,260.00

area using solid plywood with selected laminate finishing

d) Construct 12½ft x 5ft designed 4" raise up platform **** 1,000.00

room window area

e) Construct 13ft designed full height book cabinet at proposed 3,120.00

study room area using solid plywood with selected laminate

finishing

f) Construct 2nos. of 8ft L-shape designed study desk at 2,400.00

proposed study room area using solid plywood with selected

laminate finishing

g) Construct 6ft designed full height sliding wardrobe at proposed 1,500.00

guest room area using solid plywood with selected laminate

finishing

h) Construct 4ft designed full height book cabinet at proposed 960.00

entertainment room area using solid plywood with selected

laminate finishing

i) Construct 16ft designed L-shape sliding wardrobe at porposed 4,000.00

master bedroom room area using solid plywood with selected

laminate finishing

l) Construct 5ft designed suspended underneath vanity cabinet 900.00

c/w pop out mirror at master bathroom area using solid

plywood with selected laminate finishing

m) Construct 5ft x 3ft designed island counter at proposed dry 900.00

kitchen area using solid plywood with selected laminate finishing

n) Construct 34ft designed Top & Bottom kitchen cabinet c/w 4,080.00

set of drawer, PVC hard edging, 'Blum' system soft closing for

all doors, stainlees steel dish rack and shelving using solid

plywood with selected laminate finishing

Sub - Total (S$): 22,570.00

4 Solid Surface Material Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) Install 14ft selected solid surface material kitchen counter top 980.00

c/w profile and backsplash

b) Install 8ft L-shape selected solid surface material island 750.00

counter top c/w integrated wash basin, profile and backsplash

c) Install 5ft selected solid surface material vanity counter top 350.00

at master bathroom c/w profile and backsplash

5 Partition Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) Construct partition false wall at proposed master bedroom 750.00

sliding wardrobe area

b) Construct partition false wall between proposed wet & dry 200.00

kitchen area

c) Construct 2ft partition false wall at propposed guest room area 100.00

d) Construct 5ft low height parttion false wall between master

bedroom and proposed master bathroom area 120.00

e) Box up of exposed PVC big pipe with master board & lay wall 800.00

tiles at 2 toilets

6 False Ceiling/ L-Box Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) L-box/false ceiling/cove lighting **** and passageway to 800.00

bedrooms

b) False ceiling at proposed dry kitchen area 350.00

c) False ceiling at proposed study room area 380.00

d) L-box/false ceiling at proposed guest room area 330.00

e) False ceiling at proposed entertainment room area 350.00

f) False ceiling/cove lighting at master bedroom area 600.00

g) False ceiling at proposed walk-in wardrobe area 200.00

h) False ceiling at proposed wet kitchen area 180.00

i) False ceiling at service yard area 150.00

j) False ceiling at common bathroom area 130.00

k) False ceiling at master bathroom area 100.00

7 Aluminum Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) Install anodized aluminum sliding window for whole house 3,550.00

c/w normal tinted glass (does not include top hung window)

(up to 4ft high)(include yrad area)

b) Install 2nos.of anodized aluminum adjustable lourve window at 550.00

2 bathrooms c/w laminated glass (laminated glass or wired

mesh glass)

Sub - Total (S$): 11,720.00

8 Laminate Flooring Material Works

To supply labour and materials to lay laminate flooring material to

3 bedrooms and proposed entertainment room area c/w skirting 2,600.00

and whole life warranty against manufacturers' defects.

(Ace, Power Dekor, Vista)

9 Glass/Mirror/Shower Screen Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) Install 10mm thick clear glass top hung sliding door between 780.00

proposed wet and dry area area (7ft high)

b) Install 10mm thick frameless clear glass swing door c/w 450.00

standard handle at proposed entertainment room area

c) Install 10mm thick frameless frosted glass swing door c/w 550.00

standard handle at master bathroom area

d) Install 10mm thick frameless tempered clear glass swing door 450.00

shower screen c/w standard handle at common bathroom (up

to 6ft high)

e) Install 10mm thick tempered clear glass sliding door shower 580.00

screen at master bathroom (up to 6ft high)

f) Install 12ft(L) 8mm thick coloured glass backing between Top & 600.00

Bottom kitchen cabinet area

g) Install 4ft x 5ft 10mm thick clear glass fixed panel at master 300.00

bathroom area

h) Install 4ft x 5ft 10mm thick clear glass fixed panel at foyer area 300.00

10 Plumbing Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) Lay new cold water pipes for whole house 680.00

b) Lay 2nos.of hot water pipes for 2 bathrooms shower area 160.00

c) Labour to install 2nos.of shower mixer tap c/w shower set 100.00

d) Labour to install 2nos.of sit toilet bowl 220.00

e) Labour to install 2nos.of wash basin c/w drainage system 200.00

f) Labour to install 1no.of central tank heater c/w heater wire 100.00

g) Labour to install 1no.of washing machine tap c/w in/outlet 80.00

system

h) Labour to install 2nos.of kitchen sink c/w drainage system 240.00

i) Labour to install 2nos.of spray jet c/w mini-valve at 2 80.00

bathrooms

j) Labour to install 2 sets of toilet accessories F.O.C.

* Install rain shower additional $80.

Sub - Total (S$): 8,470.00

11 Door Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) Install 4nos.of solid nyatoh wooden door for 3 bedrooms and 1,120.00

storeroom c/w standard lockset

b) Install 4nos.of wooden frame for 3 bedrooms and storeroom 800.00

c) Install 1no. of 'BesGlas' Ezi door c/w acrylic panel at common 300.00

bathroom area

d) Supply & install 4ft L X 7ft H solid design main door 650.00

e) Supply & install 4ft L X 7ft H wrought iron main gate 500.00

13 Painting Works

To supply labour and materials to paint whole house using 1,650.00

ICI/Nippon emulsion paint include dry/wet kitchen wall, service

yard wall and all exposed piping c/w 1 under coat. (max. 8 colours

including white)

14 Plastering Works

To supply labour and materials to plaster whole house wall and 2,580.00

ceiling area c/w angle guard. (include dry/wet kitchen area)

15 Other Works

To supply labour and materials to

a) Apply HDB permit F.O.C.

b) Lay corrugated paper protection during renovation period F.O.C.

c) Acid wash and general cleaning upon completion F.O.C.

d) Labour to install of hood & hob and oven F.O.C.

e) Haulage, provide sand and hoisting of materials to site 1,200.00

f) Clearing of whole house debris.

Sub - Total (S$): 8,800.00

Total (S$): 63,380.00

Less Special Discount (S$): 3,000.00

Grand - Total (S$): 60,380.00

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