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[gimz63251073 0]

if you shift it up to a high high position and slant it 90degree, it will becomes a Rain shower.

it is open for all, but it is not open for everything. uncertain thing can ask for advise, not commenting assuming as it is certain, then it will hurt other relationship and is no good liao.

rain shower or not, as long as the person gets showered, the shower head would have done its job.

anyway, i believe time can be better spent doing business rather than arguing over something so silly.

IF u want to do business in renotalk, u have to accept comments - not only compliments!

Edited July 15, 2010 by gimz63251073

[titanax 0]

indeed it's a challenge. i am speaking based on personal experience. take a look at the location of my shower head? only after we use it, then we realized what a mistake i made

looks good, but not very practical. if i could redo it, I would do it slightly differently

err ossify, your mixer location very "strategic" imagine you get soap in your eyes & turn sharply, sure will get a nasty "blue-black" on your hips...even worse for guys

Edited July 15, 2010 by titanax

[ossify 1]

err ossify, your mixer location very "strategic" imagine you get soap in your eyes & turn sharply, sure will get a nasty "blue-black" on your hips...even worse for guys

haha, that bit i did plan. it's at my belly button level so no issue.

and yes, my concealed shower lever is very curvy, no sharp edges

[jaskel 2]

Anyone mind if I was to comment or said something regard about the shower head issue?

Cool down every1...have a beer have a kit-kat

Edited July 15, 2010 by jaskel

[jaskel 2]

Saw that I was being mention here... so "kapoh" a bit as in the same time clear all doubts on this instant heater position.

Ossify bro, being a contractor yourself, think u should know what is right to said and what is not? Assume that the shower head issue will cause some problem will in the end make a a** out of u n me. Its good that u based on your experience on the shower head but think u get its all wrong (or maybe I was wrong ).

Different instant heater, different shower head, different fitting, different depth of the wall and also different pressure.

They are so many things different and already started to assume this and that. And in the end, only confuses the owner (matashi).

Matashi is using Alpha S100-T2 instant heater (hope I'm right by seeing on the photo) with original shower head. Ossify is using 707 compact instant heater with Hansgrohe Raindance E100 AIR 1Jet (also hope I'm right bout that)

Different pressure

Alpha instant heater, max pressure - 43.5psi, min pressure 2.9psi

707 instant heater, recommend pressure - 14.5psi, min pressure 2.5psi, max pressure 8psi

Different shower head

Matashi - original shower head with adjustable height and angle

Ossify - Hansgrohe Raindance E100 AIR 1JET with Porter'D (the assy that hold the shower head), can't adjust the height once fitted but can adjust the angle. By right the installation for Raindance E100 is to install such a way 60 deg for the handle and the head is 90 deg to create a rain air effect. But from the pic posted was not so, and btw the pressure is not strong enough also. This was the causes for the water distance (or water outlet) to be "weak".

Different depth of the wall

Matashi - est. ard 100-150mm

Ossify - est. ard 250mm-300mm

With so many differences, how can we assume there is a problem?

I'm always told my customers, compare apple with apple not apple with orange.

This is just my point of views on the 2 different instant heater and shower head, most importantly, matashi will test it and let us know the result.

Owner have doubts, I'll try to answer to my best knowledge. I'm can't be 100% right all the time and I'm also learning from the owners too.

This forum is a open forum. But if a contractor was to comment on other contractors on their work, design, etc....I think the other contractors will also be defensive on it too. But if hse owner was to comment on the contractor, then its was a sharing and learning experience for all parties.

[titanax 0]

This forum is a open forum. But if a contractor was to comment on other contractors on their work, design, etc....I think the other contractors will also be defensive on it too. But if hse owner was to comment on the contractor, then its was a sharing and learning experience for all parties.

[jaskel 2]

titanax bro, so u understand why when u brought the rain shower I wanted to check on the spec. for the storage heater can use not.

[titanax 0]

titanax bro, so u understand why when u brought the rain shower I wanted to check on the spec. for the storage heater can use not.

today i understand many things jaskel bro, when you engage a contractor its not all about costs only, the "human factor" is also very important.

[jaskel 2]

today i understand many things jaskel bro, when you engage a contractor its not all about costs only, the "human factor" is also very important.

Ya...that's why when some forumers asked to compare on the quotation, I'll advise them if they have more feel, clicks with the ID/contractors, they should just let them do it. As long as the ID/contractor is honest, trustworthy, and the services are good, why not let them just earn a bit more?

So do I have the "human factor" for u?

Edited July 15, 2010 by jaskel

[samgalz 2]

Ya...that's why when some forumers asked to compare on the quotation, I'll advise them if they have more feel, clicks with the ID/contractors, they should just let them do it. As long as the ID/contractor is honest, trustworthy, and the services are good, why not let them just earn a bit more?

So do I have the "human factor" for u?

agree, ultimately...owner n contractor has to click to make the reno a good one....

[titanax 0]

Ya...that's why when some forumers asked to compare on the quotation, I'll advise them if they have more feel, clicks with the ID/contractors, they should just let them do it. As long as the ID/contractor is honest, trustworthy, and the services are good, why not let them just earn a bit more?

So do I have the "human factor" for u?

u not shy okok i adjust my magic calculator for you

[jaskel 2]

u not shy okok i adjust my magic calculator for you

Oh...adjust higher or lower ? Morning every1.

[ossify 1]

owner may have some difficulty taking a shower as the water doesn't reach far out enough

Saw that I was being mention here... so "kapoh" a bit as in the same time clear all doubts on this instant heater position.

Ossify bro, being a contractor yourself, think u should know what is right to said and what is not? Assume that the shower head issue will cause some problem will in the end make a a** out of u n me. Its good that u based on your experience on the shower head but think u get its all wrong (or maybe I was wrong ).

jaskel, the word i used was "may", not "will"

it's a valid concern and is better to be confirmed before the reno is over so that any changed (if needed) can be done.

this concern does not depend on whether i am a houseowner and/or a contractor.

[jaskel 2]

jaskel, the word i used was "may", not "will"

it's a valid concern and is better to be confirmed before the reno is over so that any changed (if needed) can be done.

this concern does not depend on whether i am a houseowner and/or a contractor.

Ossify, sorry, england not that powderful, I will do the change from "will" to "may" if this sound better to u? Assume the shower head may cause some problem may in the end make a a** out of u n me.

Whether is a concern or is a comment do make a different if it was from a contractor rather than a houseowner. Cos the statmenet can be read differently.

[darkfear 0]

Hello Jason... you never reply to my SMS.. How's everything le?