Help Needed - Cement Screeded Walls- Caoting?

[kinggadget 0]

hi i am new to renovating does anyone know how to coat a cement screed wall? heard that cement is porous and will crack with time, does anyone know abotu coating ot staining the cement for colour purpose and to protect the cement from cracking?

thanks

king

[bepgof 20]

hi i am new to renovating does anyone know how to coat a cement screed wall? heard that cement is porous and will crack with time, does anyone know abotu coating ot staining the cement for colour purpose and to protect the cement from cracking?

thanks

king

Old technique.

- Gently hack wall till many small holes.

- Apply a layer of layer of cement mixed with fine sand.

- Before the layer dry, spread powder-form cement onto layer.

- The power will "eat" into the layer slowly. Quickly make flat the power layer.

Not too sure about the color, best to ask cement seller or those old ppl.

Edited April 18, 2010 by bepgof

[jeffcraze 0]

I was thinking of doing plastering for my kitchen walls as well, to save costs and also coz we dun think tat we will cook that often.. Is it the same as cement screed? How to maintain? Apologies to kinggadget for highjacking yr thread..

[bepgof 20]

I was thinking of doing plastering for my kitchen walls as well, to save costs and also coz we dun think tat we will cook that often.. Is it the same as cement screed? How to maintain? Apologies to kinggadget for highjacking yr thread..

Not doing tiling, can always applying enamal paint onto existing wall, stains easlier to be cleaned, by damp clother.

Cement screed needs skills, patience & time consuming, some more on verticle wall! When I was young, I was helping my elder brother until I wanted to cry. Cement powder attacked nake palm/hand/eye/noise too, glove makes palm less "feeling", "throwing/ spreading" the power toward wall become not even!........many tips

Plastering is slightly different from cement screed. Plastering appeared to be "softer" after drying & will peel off, pieces by pieces if the base treament (adhesive force not enought) not proper done onto wall.

Proper plastering is : hack many small holes on wall, spread water-clean away powder as well let wall moist, wait dry a bit, apply plaster and make flat, let dry (best >12 hr), sand, clean with damp cloth, wait dry, apply primer, wait dry, apply enamal paint. Make sure plaster applies only one layer. Or if to apply second layer, make sure making tiny holes on wall again....otherwise 2nd layer will peel off, pieces & pieces, easily, after some time.

Those 1-rm HDB old rental flats were done in this ways(tile half high, half enamel paint)

Edited April 18, 2010 by bepgof

[strawberry8 0]

Hmmmm, I just told me contractor I want to plaster on existing wall tiles (saving on hacking cost and time) and paint with Easy-Wash Nippon.

He said can.

But this thread seems to say must hack wall tiles before plastering....

[bepgof 20]

Hmmmm, I just told me contractor I want to plaster on existing wall tiles (saving on hacking cost and time) and paint with Easy-Wash Nippon.

He said can.

But this thread seems to say must hack wall tiles before plastering....

If the tiles you mentioned are those ceramics type, & if yr contractor just "plaster" over it, the plaster layer won't last. Unless he does some minor hacking to make surface uneven, then the adhesion force is strong enough.

Anyway, hole him responsible for any cracking/peeling off. Usually, if work no good, effect will surface within 3 months.

Edited April 18, 2010 by bepgof

[jeffcraze 0]

Not doing tiling, can always applying enamal paint onto existing wall, stains easlier to be cleaned, by damp clother.

Cement screed needs skills, patience & time consuming, some more on verticle wall! When I was young, I was helping my elder brother until I wanted to cry. Cement powder attacked nake palm/hand/eye/noise too, glove makes palm less "feeling", "throwing/ spreading" the power toward wall become not even!........many tips

Plastering is slightly different from cement screed. Plastering appeared to be "softer" after drying & will peel off, pieces by pieces if the base treament (adhesive force not enought) not proper done onto wall.

Proper plastering is : hack many small holes on wall, spread water-clean away powder as well let wall moist, wait dry a bit, apply plaster and make flat, let dry (best >12 hr), sand, clean with damp cloth, wait dry, apply primer, wait dry, apply enamal paint. Make sure plaster applies only one layer. Or if to apply second layer, make sure making tiny holes on wall again....otherwise 2nd layer will peel off, pieces & pieces, easily, after some time.

Those 1-rm HDB old rental flats were done in this ways(tile half high, half enamel paint)

Eh, I am a bit confused. Coz my kitchen's current condition is half tile and half bare (enamel paint, I guess). So any suggestions on how I can save costs if I don't wanna do tiling?

[bepgof 20]

Eh, I am a bit confused. Coz my kitchen's current condition is half tile and half bare (enamel paint, I guess). So any suggestions on how I can save costs if I don't wanna do tiling?

May consider the following alternatives:

1. Maintain as it is, repaint the enamel paint.

2. Hack away the tiles, apply plastering, make flush the whole wall, then apply enamel paint

Note: Enamel paint is sensitive to heat, may consider pastering tiles/stainless steel plate near the stove, for easy cleaning after cooking for long term.

Edited April 19, 2010 by bepgof

[jeffcraze 0]

Thanx bepgof for the alternatives! Will be gg with the 2nd alternative as we dun like the existing wall tiles. Your information was very helpful!

May consider the following alternatives:

1. Maintain as it is, repaint the enamel paint.

2. Hack away the tiles, apply plastering, make flush the whole wall, then apply enamel paint

Note: Enamel paint is sensitive to heat, may consider pastering tiles/stainless steel plate near the stove, for easy cleaning after cooking for long term.

[teegwee1 0]

Hi,

Can someone recommend me a good contractor to cement screed my living room wall. Someone who is skillful.

Many thanks!!

[angelbutterfly 0]

I also need one! 1 ID actually quote me more exp than wall tiles to do for kitchen area as he claimed tat epoxy is v exp???

Many also against it though I said I knw abt the crack lines... Is it so diff to do???