blueocean 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 You are referring to the rust on the S/S lockset ? Cos i cant see clearly on the picture ... Eh.. pics of my wrought iron gate w stainless steel lockset... Can ask if i'm suppose to see rust appearing? didn't really check the whole gate though.. tot is made to withstand the weather? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueocean 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 I just extracted relevant sections of the Consumer Protection (Fair Trading) Act which is relevant for consumers. Burden of proof If in any proceedings taken in any court between a consumer and a supplier in relation to a consumer transaction, any dispute arises as to whether the supplier has complied with any specified requirement of this Act or the regulations made thereunder, the burden of proving that the supplier has so complied shall be on the supplier. Second Schedule - Specific Unfair practices 1. Representing that goods or services have sponsorship, approval, performance characteristics, accessories, ingredients, components, qualities, uses or benefits that they do not have. 2. Representing that goods or services are of a particular standard, quality, grade, style, model, origin or method of manufacture if they are not. 3. Representing that goods are new or unused if they are not or if they have deteriorated or been altered, reconditioned or reclaimed. 4. Representing that goods have been used to an extent different from the fact or that they have a particular history or use if the supplier knows it is not so. 5. Representing that goods or services are available or are available for a particular reason, for a particular price, in particular quantities or at a particular time if the supplier knows or can reasonably be expected to know it is not so, unless the representation clearly states any limitation. 6. Representing that a service, part, repair or replacement is needed or desirable if that is not so, or that a service has been provided, a part has been installed, a repair has been made or a replacement has been provided, if that is not so. 7. Representing that a price benefit or advantage exists respecting goods or services where the price benefit or advantage does not exist. 8. Charging a price for goods or services that is substantially higher than an estimate provided to the consumer, except where the consumer has expressly agreed to the higher price in advance. 9. Representing that a transaction involving goods or services involves or does not involve rights, remedies or obligations where that representation is deceptive or misleading. 10. Representing that a person has or does not have the authority to negotiate the final terms of an agreement involving goods or services if the representation is different from the fact. 11. Taking advantage of a consumer by including in an agreement terms or conditions that are harsh, oppressive or excessively one-sided so as to be unconscionable. 12. Taking advantage of a consumer by exerting undue pressure or undue influence on the consumer to enter into a transaction involving goods or services. 13. Representing in relation to a voucher that another supplier will provide goods or services at a discounted or reduced price if the supplier making the representation knows or ought to know that the other supplier will not do so. 14. Making a representation that appears in an objective form such as an editorial, documentary or scientific report when the representation is primarily made to sell goods or services, unless the representation states that it is an advertisement or a promotion. 15. Representing that a particular person has offered or agreed to acquire goods or services whether or not at a stated price if he has not. 16. Representing the availability of facilities for repair of goods or of spare parts for goods if that is not the case. 17. Offering gifts, prizes or other free items in connection with the supply of goods or services if the supplier knows or ought to know that the items will not be provided or provided as offered. 18. Representing that goods or services are available at a discounted price for a stated period of time if the supplier knows or ought to know that the goods or services will continue to be so available for a substantially longer period. 19. Representing that goods or services are available at a discounted price for a particular reason that is different from the fact. 20. Using small print to conceal a material fact from the consumer or to mislead a consumer as to a material fact, in connection with the supply of goods or services. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencer 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 You are referring to the rust on the S/S lockset ? Cos i cant see clearly on the picture ... Hmm.. both leh.. let me go back and take another clearer pic.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencer 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 You are referring to the rust on the S/S lockset ? Cos i cant see clearly on the picture ... This can see? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaskel 2 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 This can see? 1st of all...did u paid for a galvanised wrought iron gate or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencer 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 1st of all...did u paid for a galvanised wrought iron gate or not? The quotation only wrote "One set of wrought iron main gate with stainless steel lockset".. we initially wanted to get those aluminium type coz won't rust.. then.. anyway.. Any ways to check if it is galvanised? If is not galvanised, means the whole gate would rust over time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaskel 2 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 The quotation only wrote "One set of wrought iron main gate with stainless steel lockset".. we initially wanted to get those aluminium type coz won't rust.. then.. anyway.. Any ways to check if it is galvanised? If is not galvanised, means the whole gate would rust over time? The pricing is one gd example to check, cos galvanised wrought iron usually cost more than a coated one. If was quoted $300-$400 plus for a gate, it usually is not galvanised. And yes, not galvanised gate, u will expect it to start to rust in 3 mths time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencer 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 The pricing is one gd example to check, cos galvanised wrought iron usually cost more than a coated one. If was quoted $300-$400 plus for a gate, it usually is not galvanised. And yes, not galvanised gate, u will expect it to start to rust in 3 mths time. Ookkk... so mine is not glavanised gate.. Any possible solution? spray with something? if no solution, then would need to change gate again in a few months time? i changed the previous gate to a gate wic would rust.. sigh.. no ask properly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueocean 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 Hmm ... i didnt know non-glavanised wrought iron will rust so quickily ... fencer ... you apartment faces the ocean har ? so rust so quickily Ookkk... so mine is not glavanised gate.. Any possible solution? spray with something? if no solution, then would need to change gate again in a few months time? i changed the previous gate to a gate wic would rust.. sigh.. no ask properly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 Ookkk... so mine is not glavanised gate.. Any possible solution? spray with something? if no solution, then would need to change gate again in a few months time? i changed the previous gate to a gate wic would rust.. sigh.. no ask properly... You want to DIY it? Get some rust converter. See here for more info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencer 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) Hmm ... i didnt know non-glavanised wrought iron will rust so quickily ... fencer ... you apartment faces the ocean har ? so rust so quickily No leh.. i live in Simei... Ha.. but main door and gate would kana rain if rain super heavy.. You want to DIY it? Get some rust converter. See here for more info i read the website.. is not easy to apply leh.. got any1 use before? Edited May 25, 2010 by fencer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencer 0 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 I just extracted relevant sections of the Consumer Protection (Fair Trading) Act which is relevant for consumers. Burden of proof If in any proceedings taken in any court between a consumer and a supplier in relation to a consumer transaction, any dispute arises as to whether the supplier has complied with any specified requirement of this Act or the regulations made thereunder, the burden of proving that the supplier has so complied shall be on the supplier. Second Schedule - Specific Unfair practices 1. Representing that goods or services have sponsorship, approval, performance characteristics, accessories, ingredients, components, qualities, uses or benefits that they do not have. 2. Representing that goods or services are of a particular standard, quality, grade, style, model, origin or method of manufacture if they are not. 3. Representing that goods are new or unused if they are not or if they have deteriorated or been altered, reconditioned or reclaimed. 4. Representing that goods have been used to an extent different from the fact or that they have a particular history or use if the supplier knows it is not so. 5. Representing that goods or services are available or are available for a particular reason, for a particular price, in particular quantities or at a particular time if the supplier knows or can reasonably be expected to know it is not so, unless the representation clearly states any limitation. 6. Representing that a service, part, repair or replacement is needed or desirable if that is not so, or that a service has been provided, a part has been installed, a repair has been made or a replacement has been provided, if that is not so. 7. Representing that a price benefit or advantage exists respecting goods or services where the price benefit or advantage does not exist. 8. Charging a price for goods or services that is substantially higher than an estimate provided to the consumer, except where the consumer has expressly agreed to the higher price in advance. 9. Representing that a transaction involving goods or services involves or does not involve rights, remedies or obligations where that representation is deceptive or misleading. 10. Representing that a person has or does not have the authority to negotiate the final terms of an agreement involving goods or services if the representation is different from the fact. 11. Taking advantage of a consumer by including in an agreement terms or conditions that are harsh, oppressive or excessively one-sided so as to be unconscionable. 12. Taking advantage of a consumer by exerting undue pressure or undue influence on the consumer to enter into a transaction involving goods or services. 13. Representing in relation to a voucher that another supplier will provide goods or services at a discounted or reduced price if the supplier making the representation knows or ought to know that the other supplier will not do so. 14. Making a representation that appears in an objective form such as an editorial, documentary or scientific report when the representation is primarily made to sell goods or services, unless the representation states that it is an advertisement or a promotion. 15. Representing that a particular person has offered or agreed to acquire goods or services whether or not at a stated price if he has not. 16. Representing the availability of facilities for repair of goods or of spare parts for goods if that is not the case. 17. Offering gifts, prizes or other free items in connection with the supply of goods or services if the supplier knows or ought to know that the items will not be provided or provided as offered. 18. Representing that goods or services are available at a discounted price for a stated period of time if the supplier knows or ought to know that the goods or services will continue to be so available for a substantially longer period. 19. Representing that goods or services are available at a discounted price for a particular reason that is different from the fact. 20. Using small print to conceal a material fact from the consumer or to mislead a consumer as to a material fact, in connection with the supply of goods or services. This is good and very informative leh.. On the Burden of Proof, looks like my contractor shld be proving to me that the defects are acceptable, rather then i prove to him that what is not acceptable.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaskel 2 Report post Posted May 24, 2010 Ookkk... so mine is not glavanised gate.. Any possible solution? spray with something? if no solution, then would need to change gate again in a few months time? i changed the previous gate to a gate wic would rust.. sigh.. no ask properly... De-rust, primer then paint over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencer 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2010 De-rust, primer then paint over. ok.. thanks huh.. i discuss with my wife 1st.. DIY would estimate last how long? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fencer 0 Report post Posted May 25, 2010 Looks like there's cheating/fraud committed by phillip at Henry's office.. Read Here.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites