Toa Payoh Blk 79 Kakis

[Dracula 0]

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- Proposed Meeting w NPP, 2b arranged by TPC Zone2RC (Sat 3pm* OR, Sun 5pm* - Date 2b confirmed)

- Agenda:

i) murder, burglaries, suspicious characters@ fire escape stairs (info & preventive measures, advice)

ii) recommendations on unbecoming conduct of students/punks loiterin@SkyGdn..(graffiti, litterin, intimacy..)

iii) dangerous acts eg. sittin on railing, ball flyin over railing onto passersby/ vehicles below, water bombs...)

iv) any other (residents'/ NPP) observations & comments

1. Hana79 - Blk C. Sat 3pm

2. Meepok & Babymaro2003 - Blk C. Sat 3pm / Sun 5pm

3. Khim & missy - Blk D Sun 5pm

4. Stay79 & hubby - Blk E Sat 3pm

5. Dracula & Wife - Blk E Sat 3pm / Sun 5pm

[meepok 0]

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- Proposed Meeting w NPP, 2b arranged by TPC Zone2RC (Sat 3pm* OR, Sun 5pm* - Date 2b confirmed)

- Agenda:

i) murder, burglaries, suspicious characters@ fire escape stairs (info & preventive measures, advice)

ii) recommendations on unbecoming conduct of students/punks loiterin@SkyGdn..(graffiti, litterin, intimacy..)

iii) dangerous acts eg. sittin on railing, ball flyin over railing onto passersby/ vehicles below, water bombs...)

iv) any other (residents'/ NPP) observations & comments

1. Hana79 - Blk C. Sat 3pm

2. Meepok & Babymaro2003 - Blk E. Sat 3pm

3. Khim & missy - Blk D. Sun 5pm

4. Stay79 & hubby - Blk E. Sat 3pm

5. Dracula & Wife - Blk E. Sat 3pm / Sun 5pm

Edited August 17, 2008 by meepok

[Hana79 0]

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- Proposed Meeting w NPP, 2b arranged by TPC Zone2RC (Sat 3pm* OR, Sun 5pm* - Date 2b confirmed)

- Agenda:

i) murder, burglaries, suspicious characters@ fire escape stairs (info & preventive measures, advice)

ii) recommendations on unbecoming conduct of students/punks loiterin@SkyGdn..(graffiti, litterin, intimacy..)

iii) dangerous acts eg. sittin on railing, ball flyin over railing onto passersby/ vehicles below, water bombs...)

iv) any other (residents'/ NPP) observations & comments

1. Hana79 - Blk C. Sat 3pm

2. Meepok & Babymaro2003 - Blk E. Sat 3pm

3. Khim & missy - Blk D. Sun 5pm

4. Stay79 & hubby - Blk E. Sat 3pm

5. Dracula & Wife - Blk E. Sat 3pm / Sun 5pm

Noted: Good representation of low, mid & high flr owners frm Blk E

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Hi Meepok

I know ur dying 2clobber da livin daylights outta these graffiti punks or beat them to a pulp but ur jus grittin ur teeth & as Drac said, "ren". I tot b4 these punks get their face features 'rearranged' by imprints of ur knuckles , if RC can facilitate 2convey our security concerns 2 da police & b4 punks make a dumpster of our SkyGdn.

I understand ur concerns & know tt if SkyGdn deteriorates (graffiti decorated walls, litter all around & cleaners ultimately dun bother anymore). Families & resident then avoid the shabby & dirty Gdn, wch then draws da wrong crowd ie. gangs, troublemakers.. & soon we wil hv unsavoury characters living in our midst!

Yeah, hope da matas agree 2step up patrol in areas tt residents hv sighted unbecoming behaviour or, almost rubbed shoulders w dangerous acts by others.

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Tdy went to 79 w hubby who got dinner takeaways, hopin 2hear PM's 8.00pm ND rally speech but heard Spore Team paddlers scheduled 2play opponents@ 7.30pm

Tough nut 2crack cos our players only rank 6, 7 & 9 while China got two world aces, 1 a veteran@gold medals, another a perfectionist! (quite unlike Women's Singles tennis semi finals where D. Safina, Russian who is seeded no. 6 beat world no. 1, Serbian J. Jankovic). Bot some storage boxes wch I later cleaned up.

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Jacky,

I din know u rep TPY in tbl tennis. How fast is ur serve ah? Can "serve" those punks' heads some "kilat2" balls from afar so Meepok no nid 2use his clobber tool? I know wat...

U go up SkyGdn, play aggressive pingpong, anyhow serve, balls flyin everywhere hittin punks, they all sure flee 1. If matas dun do anythg, u do us a 'last resort' favor can???

[Dracula 0]

Noted: Good representation of low, mid & high flr owners frm Blk E

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Hi Meepok

I know ur dying 2clobber da livin daylights outta these graffiti punks or beat them to a pulp but ur jus grittin ur teeth & as Drac said, "ren". I tot b4 these punks get their face features 'rearranged' by imprints of ur knuckles , if RC can facilitate 2convey our security concerns 2 da police & b4 punks make a dumpster of our SkyGdn.

I understand ur concerns & know tt if SkyGdn deteriorates (graffiti decorated walls, litter all around & cleaners ultimately dun bother anymore). Families & resident then avoid the shabby & dirty Gdn, wch then draws da wrong crowd ie. gangs, troublemakers.. & soon we wil hv unsavoury characters living in our midst!

Yeah, hope da matas agree 2step up patrol in areas tt residents hv sighted unbecoming behaviour or, almost rubbed shoulders w dangerous acts by others.

_________

Tdy went to 79 w hubby who got dinner takeaways, hopin 2hear PM's 8.00pm ND rally speech but heard Spore Team paddlers scheduled 2play opponents@ 7.30pm

Tough nut 2crack cos our players only rank 6, 7 & 9 while China got two world aces, 1 a veteran@gold medals, another a perfectionist! (quite unlike Women's Singles tennis semi finals where D. Safina, Russian who is seeded no. 6 beat world no. 1, Serbian J. Jankovic). Bot some storage boxes wch I later cleaned up.

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Jacky,

I din know u rep TPY in tbl tennis. How fast is ur serve ah? Can "serve" those punks' heads some "kilat2" balls from afar so Meepok no nid 2use his clobber tool? I know wat...

U go up SkyGdn, play aggressive pingpong, anyhow serve, balls flyin everywhere hittin punks, they all sure flee 1. If matas dun do anythg, u do us a 'last resort' favor can???

Hana,

How about a game of TPY 79 Bowling competition @ The Sky Garden, maybe even stone throwing competition (who can hit the most Punks).

Frankly, i doubt "THEY" can do anything ah.... but its worth a shot and try.... after all, there are dozens of them flocking over daily and more will migrate over as time passes with a rather distinct flavor of colors, art and design @ The Sky Garden.

Lets hope for the best ah.... Hehe...

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- Proposed Meeting w NPP, 2b arranged by TPC Zone2RC (Sat 3pm* OR, Sun 5pm* - Date 2b confirmed)

- Agenda:

i) murder, burglaries, suspicious characters@ fire escape stairs (info & preventive measures, advice)

ii) recommendations on unbecoming conduct of students/punks loiterin@SkyGdn..(graffiti, litterin, intimacy..)

iii) dangerous acts eg. sittin on railing, ball flyin over railing onto passersby/ vehicles below, water bombs...)

iv) any other (residents'/ NPP) observations & comments

1. Hana79 - Blk C. Sat 3pm

2. Meepok & Babymaro2003 - Blk E. Sat 3pm

3. Khim & missy - Blk D. Sun 5pm

4. Stay79 & hubby - Blk E. Sat 3pm

5. Dracula & Wife - Blk E. Sat 3pm

[meepok 0]

Noted: Good representation of low, mid & high flr owners frm Blk E

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Hi Meepok

I know ur dying 2clobber da livin daylights outta these graffiti punks or beat them to a pulp but ur jus grittin ur teeth & as Drac said, "ren". I tot b4 these punks get their face features 'rearranged' by imprints of ur knuckles , if RC can facilitate 2convey our security concerns 2 da police & b4 punks make a dumpster of our SkyGdn.

I understand ur concerns & know tt if SkyGdn deteriorates (graffiti decorated walls, litter all around & cleaners ultimately dun bother anymore). Families & resident then avoid the shabby & dirty Gdn, wch then draws da wrong crowd ie. gangs, troublemakers.. & soon we wil hv unsavoury characters living in our midst!

Yeah, hope da matas agree 2step up patrol in areas tt residents hv sighted unbecoming behaviour or, almost rubbed shoulders w dangerous acts by others.

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LOL! ok ok I will keep my knuckle duster and stay away from the cul-de-sac for the time being! Let the boys in blue do their job first.

May I also suggest that some sort of signage be placed around the sky garden walls... something like "Area Under Surveillance..." which Alister mentioned about earlier. Whether or not they're going to install real surveillance camera is another issue. Just like those red light cameras... some could be fakes. Well, at least it may help deter some of these would-be punks from doing the dirty deed!

[Hana79 0]

Dear Neighbors, (UPDATE)

- Recv RC chair cal, say tt following recent meeting w NPP, TC.. he gather murder case is under further investigation. Burglaries were mainly@ reno units wch compromised security w ineffective locks; SkyGdn..(he din continue). He said a Notice will be out later 2address some of these.

- He mention there are concerns tt some topics raised in Renotalk may not be suitable eg. postings tt gv other unrelated readers da view tt tis estate has high crime rate when it's not da case

- Some undesirable comments

- He dun come online regularly, only jus read a letter addressed 2him (Strawberry's post?)

I clarified tt I can't speak for everybody/ their undesirable comments . For me, I noted neighs hv similar security concerns as myself & hvg gather frm him on possibility of a meetin w NPP, am facilitating tt. He oso ask if residents wan2 meet NPP only (he wil arrange w da commander) or TC... as well (so I'll indicate below if residents oso wan2 meet TC). Since he & I last discussed abt a possible wkend meet & my feedback tdy tt so far, abt 10 ppl, mostly for Sat pm, he proposed two dates: Sat 6/9 or Sat 13/9.

I await more Genuine replies/attendees (n case last min some can't come). If not, waste NPP time talkin to 2-3 residents (I rather they spend it patrolling) & later, others again request 2meet NPP. We oso nid2 hv a min representation so can bring up more/diff issues & bigger presence to show support of our concerns.

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- Proposed Meeting w NPP, 2b arranged by TPCZone2 RC

- Time: 3pm, Sat 6 Sept* OR, Sat 13 Sept*. Pls indicate if u wish to hv dialogue w NPP* and/or Town Council*

- Agenda:

i) burglaries, suspicious characters@ fire escape stairs (info & preventive measures, advice)

ii) recommendations on unbecoming conduct of students/punks loiterin@SkyGdn..(graffiti, litterin, intimacy..)

iii) dangerous acts eg. sittin on railing, ball flyin over railing onto passersby/ vehicles below, water bombs...)

iv) any other (residents'/NPP/TC*) observations & comments

1. Hana79 - Blk C. NPP & TC. 6 Sep (13 Sep ok but earlier better)

2. Meepok & Babymaro2003 - Blk E. Sat 3pm

3. Khim & missy - Blk D. Sun 5pm

4. Stay79 & hubby - Blk E. Sat 3pm

5. Dracula & Wife - Blk E. Sat 3pm

Hana,

How about a game of TPY 79 Bowling competition @ The Sky Garden, maybe even stone throwing competition (who can hit the most Punks).

Frankly, i doubt "THEY" can do anything ah.... but its worth a shot and try.... after all, there are dozens of them flocking over daily and more will migrate over as time passes with a rather distinct flavor of colors, art and design @ The Sky Garden.

Lets hope for the best ah.... Hehe...

Hi Drac,

Wah, bowling a bit heavy, man! Sure break arms & legs1. Then Blk 79 ctr of attn when many ambulances anyhow park below our blks, sirens wailing, red lights blinkin, punks' parents howling, oh dear!

_____

Jacky,

U jus play CRAZY pingpong, TPY Rep speed & aggro@ SkyGdn, enuff oredi!

Esp ur reno contractor hor, do wrong false ceiling... hor, u go SkyGdn "smash out kilat2" all ur frustrations using pingpong balls, punks sure flee in all directions, no more come back!!

Edited August 18, 2008 by Hana79

[Dracula 0]

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- Proposed Meeting w NPP, 2b arranged by TPCZone2 RC

- Time: 3pm, Sat 6 Sept* OR, Sat 13 Sept*. Pls indicate if u wish to hv dialogue w NPP* and/or Town Council*

- Agenda:

i) burglaries, suspicious characters@ fire escape stairs (info & preventive measures, advice)

ii) recommendations on unbecoming conduct of students/punks loiterin@SkyGdn..(graffiti, litterin, intimacy..)

iii) dangerous acts eg. sittin on railing, ball flyin over railing onto passersby/ vehicles below, water bombs...)

iv) any other (residents'/NPP/TC*) observations & comments

1. Hana79 - Blk C. NPP & TC. 6 Sep (13 Sep ok but earlier better)

2. Meepok & Babymaro2003 - Blk E. Sat 3pm

3. Khim & missy - Blk D. Sun 5pm

4. Stay79 & hubby - Blk E. Sat 3pm

5. Dracula & Wife - Blk E. NPP & TC. 6 Sep (my agenda will be mainly i & ii)

[meepok 0]

Dear Neighbors, (UPDATE)

- Recv RC chair cal, say tt following recent meeting w NPP, TC.. he gather murder case is under further investigation. Burglaries were mainly@ reno units wch compromised security w ineffective locks; SkyGdn..(he din continue). He said a Notice will be out later 2address some of these.

- He mention there are concerns tt some topics raised in Renotalk may not be suitable eg. postings tt gv other unrelated readers da view tt tis estate has high crime rate when it's not da case

- Some undesirable comments

- He dun come online regularly, only jus read a letter addressed 2him (Strawberry's post?)

I clarified tt I can't speak for everybody/ their undesirable comments . For me, I noted neighs hv similar security concerns as myself & hvg gather frm him on possibility of a meetin w NPP, am facilitating tt. He oso ask if residents wan2 meet NPP only (he wil arrange w da commander) or TC... as well (so I'll indicate below if residents oso wan2 meet TC). Since he & I last discussed abt a possible wkend meet & my feedback tdy tt so far, abt 10 ppl, mostly for Sat pm, he proposed two dates: Sat 6/9 or Sat 13/9.

I await more Genuine replies/attendees (n case last min some can't come). If not, waste NPP time talkin to 2-3 residents (I rather they spend it patrolling) & later, others again request 2meet NPP. We oso nid2 hv a min representation so can bring up more/diff issues & bigger presence to show support of our concerns.

The police can't do much if they don't see any crime/vandalism in progress. They can only increase their patrol and question those punks to prevent further vandalism. With regards to safety, I guess it's now up to each house to do their own protection and prevention. I don't expect the boys in blue to do foot patrol for every floor, that's asking too much. With limited resources, I suppose what they're doing now should be sufficient. The ball is now in our court.

As for the TC, what I would like to know is what are their long-term plans to keep the Sky Garden free from all the vandalism? Are they planning to install some form of restricted access gate or surveillance cameras? Or simply wait for more vandalism to occur then clean up the mess? If it is the latter, I rest my case. No point for me to get all hot and bothered when they don't seem as eager. But rest assured that I will continue to post photos of future vandalised walls here for all to see.

My complaint about the vandalised walls was only rectified after 2 weeks. I suppose I was asking for too much when I expected them to clean up within a few days.

I guess by now, the authorities would have known about our concerns already since i was told we have RC, TC and SPF people reading the forum. Namely the vandalism & gathering of trouble-makers on the Sky Garden. The security issue can be reviewed at a later stage when more neighbours start to move in, since most of the break-in cases were under-secured flats undergoing reno.

So it seems that the issue on hand is more of a concern for the TC than the NPP.

My undesirable comments in some posts may be too painful for some. The truth hurts. My apologies but my stand remains.

Anyway, many many thanks to Hana, for helping to relay our concerns to the relevant authorities.

Edited August 18, 2008 by meepok

[jaCKY777 0]

Dear Neighbors, (UPDATE)

- Recv RC chair cal, say tt following recent meeting w NPP, TC.. he gather murder case is under further investigation. Burglaries were mainly@ reno units wch compromised security w ineffective locks; SkyGdn..(he din continue). He said a Notice will be out later 2address some of these.

- He mention there are concerns tt some topics raised in Renotalk may not be suitable eg. postings tt gv other unrelated readers da view tt tis estate has high crime rate when it's not da case

- Some undesirable comments

- He dun come online regularly, only jus read a letter addressed 2him (Strawberry's post?)

I clarified tt I can't speak for everybody/ their undesirable comments . For me, I noted neighs hv similar security concerns as myself & hvg gather frm him on possibility of a meetin w NPP, am facilitating tt. He oso ask if residents wan2 meet NPP only (he wil arrange w da commander) or TC... as well (so I'll indicate below if residents oso wan2 meet TC). Since he & I last discussed abt a possible wkend meet & my feedback tdy tt so far, abt 10 ppl, mostly for Sat pm, he proposed two dates: Sat 6/9 or Sat 13/9.

I await more Genuine replies/attendees (n case last min some can't come). If not, waste NPP time talkin to 2-3 residents (I rather they spend it patrolling) & later, others again request 2meet NPP. We oso nid2 hv a min representation so can bring up more/diff issues & bigger presence to show support of our concerns.

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- Proposed Meeting w NPP, 2b arranged by TPCZone2 RC

- Time: 3pm, Sat 6 Sept* OR, Sat 13 Sept*. Pls indicate if u wish to hv dialogue w NPP* and/or Town Council*

- Agenda:

i) burglaries, suspicious characters@ fire escape stairs (info & preventive measures, advice)

ii) recommendations on unbecoming conduct of students/punks loiterin@SkyGdn..(graffiti, litterin, intimacy..)

iii) dangerous acts eg. sittin on railing, ball flyin over railing onto passersby/ vehicles below, water bombs...)

iv) any other (residents'/NPP/TC*) observations & comments

1. Hana79 - Blk C. NPP & TC. 6 Sep (13 Sep ok but earlier better)

2. Meepok & Babymaro2003 - Blk E. Sat 3pm

3. Khim & missy - Blk D. Sun 5pm

4. Stay79 & hubby - Blk E. Sat 3pm

5. Dracula & Wife - Blk E. Sat 3pm

Hi Drac,

Wah, bowling a bit heavy, man! Sure break arms & legs1. Then Blk 79 ctr of attn when many ambulances anyhow park below our blks, sirens wailing, red lights blinkin, punks' parents howling, oh dear!

_____

Jacky,

U jus play CRAZY pingpong, TPY Rep speed & aggro@ SkyGdn, enuff oredi!

Esp ur reno contractor hor, do wrong false ceiling... hor, u go SkyGdn "smash out kilat2" all ur frustrations using pingpong balls, punks sure flee in all directions, no more come back!!

Hey Hana79,

- my false ceiling? aiya, gona amend after e flooring is done loh. Not totally contractor's fault.

- 'pingpong'? anybody interested in playing 'pingpong'?

- mi hands kinda itchy liao. Need somebody 2 play with so dat i can practice my long lost skill of 'scrurew tariak'.

Regarding e meeting wif TPY RC Zone 2, NPC, TC & HDB rep., i think basically need 2 find out frm them ->

- wat r e preventive measures, remedy actions on security, nuisance & cleanliness issues dat r in place 4 e whole blk of 79?

- feedback ur observations, highlite ur concerns, giv suggestions, rather than complain.

- 4 security, find out more in-depth on NPC's role in 79.

- 4 area cleanliness, find out more in-depth on TC's role & schedule.

- 4 illegal parking at service driveway all day long, 'free parking' during wkends, find out more in-depth on HDB's measures.

- RCC, wil bring 2gether all e relevant 'parties', a stepping platform where residents go thru them.

They olso organize 'educational' & 'meaniful' activities 4 residents.

- 4 e sky garden, mayb can cum up with some 'special access' thingy, which was discus earlier;

(1) Instal metal gate at all sky garden access.

(2) Instal card reading device.

(2) Only residents of 79 have e access card which has a 'chip' in it. 1 card /unit.

- i belief BTPY TC, TPY RC Zone 2, TPY NPC oleady hav certain 'plans' in store. Jus dat they need time 2 execute & implement it.

- s residents, gota pressurize them so s 2 speed up all e process.

- HDB, TC, RCC & NPC oleady in 'business' 4 'donkey' yrs liao.

- if 'they' r unaware & incapable of dealing with such 'issues' since day 1 in operation, then i think 'they' can 'close shop' liao.

Edited August 18, 2008 by jaCKY777

[meowie49 1]

Yoz Hana, thanks for the work. You will definitely have our support.

- Proposed Meeting w NPP, 2b arranged by TPCZone2 RC

- Time: 3pm, Sat 6 Sept* OR, Sat 13 Sept*. Pls indicate if u wish to hv dialogue w NPP* and/or Town Council*

- Agenda:

i) burglaries, suspicious characters@ fire escape stairs (info & preventive measures, advice)

ii) recommendations on unbecoming conduct of students/punks loiterin@SkyGdn..(graffiti, litterin, intimacy..)

iii) dangerous acts eg. sittin on railing, ball flyin over railing onto passersby/ vehicles below, water bombs...)

iv) any other (residents'/NPP/TC*) observations & comments

1. Hana79 - Blk C. NPP & TC. 6 Sep (13 Sep ok but earlier better)

2. Meepok & Babymaro2003 - Blk E. Sat 3pm

3. Khim & missy - Blk D. Sun 5pm

4. Stay79 & hubby - Blk E. Sat 3pm

5. Dracula & Wife - Blk E. NPP & TC. 6 Sep (my agenda will be mainly i & ii)

6. Meowie49 - Blk C. 6 Sep

[Dracula 0]

Yeah man! Thanks Hana for the time taken and effort to talk to the RC Chairman regarding the concerns of Blk 79 safety and security.

Hail Hana! Hail Hana! Hail Hana!

[Dracula 0]

ATTENTION BLK 79E RESIDENTS ONLY!

There will be a Temporary Power Shut Down on 22nd August 2008, Friday from 10am - 4pm. So remember to clear your fridge of food that can go bad or ice cubes which will melt. Buy battery pumps for your fishes, torch lights for toilets (only applicable to those at home). Hehe....

[CUTEBABY 0]

The police can't do much if they don't see any crime/vandalism in progress. They can only increase their patrol and question those punks to prevent further vandalism. With regards to safety, I guess it's now up to each house to do their own protection and prevention. I don't expect the boys in blue to do foot patrol for every floor, that's asking too much. With limited resources, I suppose what they're doing now should be sufficient. The ball is now in our court.

As for the TC, what I would like to know is what are their long-term plans to keep the Sky Garden free from all the vandalism? Are they planning to install some form of restricted access gate or surveillance cameras? Or simply wait for more vandalism to occur then clean up the mess? If it is the latter, I rest my case. No point for me to get all hot and bothered when they don't seem as eager. But rest assured that I will continue to post photos of future vandalised walls here for all to see.

My complaint about the vandalised walls was only rectified after 2 weeks. I suppose I was asking for too much when I expected them to clean up within a few days.

I guess by now, the authorities would have known about our concerns already since i was told we have RC, TC and SPF people reading the forum. Namely the vandalism & gathering of trouble-makers on the Sky Garden. The security issue can be reviewed at a later stage when more neighbours start to move in, since most of the break-in cases were under-secured flats undergoing reno.

So it seems that the issue on hand is more of a concern for the TC than the NPP.

My undesirable comments in some posts may be too painful for some. The truth hurts. My apologies but my stand remains.

Anyway, many many thanks to Hana, for helping to relay our concerns to the relevant authorities.

We can spend all the time discussing with the “authorities” and they may suggest improvements by increasing patrol and surveillance.

From the way I see it, the only long term solution to the issue is to secure the sky garden solely for use by residents via gated access. Otherwise, it will be complete waste of time. The RC and SPF are only good at suggesting short term solutions. After a few months and when the Hoo Ha dies down and residents start losing their “memories”, it will be back to square one.

How has “foot patrol” resolve the problem. Just last night, saw a big group of 15-20 malay youths coming down from the sky garden apparently after turning the place upside down. Would the SPF charge them with illegally gathering or do they just let them off with a warning. If that’s the case, no wonder they keep coming back. Teen delinquents these days think nothing of police warning.

[yhw22 0]

ATTENTION BLK 79E RESIDENTS ONLY!

There will be a Temporary Power Shut Down on 22nd August 2008, Friday from 10am - 4pm. So remember to clear your fridge of food that can go bad or ice cubes which will melt. Buy battery pumps for your fishes, torch lights for toilets (only applicable to those at home). Hehe....

How come there was no news send to our mailbox or notice box?

If those people not reading this forum will not knew about it. Why so poor communication?

[khim 0]

From the way I see it, the only long term solution to the issue is to secure the sky garden solely for use by residents via gated access. Otherwise, it will be complete waste of time. The RC and SPF are only good at suggesting short term solutions. After a few months and when the Hoo Ha dies down and residents start losing their “memories”, it will be back to square one.

How has “foot patrol” resolve the problem. Just last night, saw a big group of 15-20 malay youths coming down from the sky garden apparently after turning the place upside down. Would the SPF charge them with illegally gathering or do they just let them off with a warning. If that’s the case, no wonder they keep coming back. Teen delinquents these days think nothing of police warning.

So agree with the restricted access to the sky garden...as for the teen delinquents, they dun seem to fear the MIB tat much nowaday I feel...MIB always issues warnings ony but then nothing major which will deter these boys fr keeping away...