Toa Payoh Blk 79 Kakis

[CUTEBABY 0]

hi all,

there are a few types of ppl to look out for. This is what i found suspicious.

1) 2 men pushing a big box(like some type of household applicance such as washing machine). They have like APPEARED on my level 2 times already. Both time, it is in the afternoon and they took a lift to my level( not from the carpark). Which means, they PURPOSELY came to the level, YET, they seems to GO TO THE WRONG level coz both time, they will look around and leave.

2) 1 middle-age man carrying a bag. The bag looks like those bag where workers placed their toolkits. This man came in the early evening. Again, purposely took lift to my level and look around then left.

In case u all are wondering, my level ar.... 1 unit had yet to finish renovation. 3 units always open wooden door. Hence, I do not think ANYTHING could have happen and ANYTHING could be done. Perhap that account for why these man just "lookaound" and left.

On a side note, beware of the following people.

1) 1 early 30s female indian with her little boy.

2) 1 late 40s female indian. (In pajamas)

I have not met the 40s female indian. But it happened to my neighbour. This is what happened.

I am at home cooking when someone pressed my dorbell urgently. I went to the door and there I saw the early 30s female with her boy. She sounded urgent and told me she is my neighbour from #02-37. Although I thought no one on the level 2 had moved in yet, i took her words for it as she sounded urgent. She told me her elder son is in hospital. Broke his leg or what. She needs to rush to hospital, but she cant get her husband. She hoped i can lend her $55. Looking at her anxious face, I took my last $50 note and passed to her. Very soon, I realised I was cheated coz there is no #02-37.

So ppl, dun be too kind. Well, at least, if you wanna help out, then please remember to check IC. Haiz.. this incident made me racist. Sorry, but i cant help it.

Saw this imitation dome camera selling at $25 at SelfFix recently, maybe we should consider installing one above our main door to deter would be cheats and thefts.

[khim 0]

1 middle-age man carrying a bag. The bag looks like those bag where workers placed their toolkits. This man came in the early evening. Again, purposely took lift to my level and look around then left.

Could this be the uncle who change the hinges for the metal gate...in the event you guys are approached pls check carefully when he mentioned abt the security of changing the hinges of the gate..

he will not inform you of any payment until the hinges are changes...keep saying it's approved by hdb a few times..keep "ngeh ngeh" hdb here and there...then proceed to show u on 1 hinge as to how easy it is to open the metal gate etc.. then there was no payment mentione watsoever...by the time u say ok change adn it is done..he asked "u mean u dun knw hv to pay ah ??" ...then no choice have to pay lor..

On a side note, beware of the following people.

1) 1 early 30s female indian with her little boy.

2) 1 late 40s female indian. (In pajamas)

I have not met the 40s female indian. But it happened to my neighbour. This is what happened.

I am at home cooking when someone pressed my dorbell urgently. I went to the door and there I saw the early 30s female with her boy. She sounded urgent and told me she is my neighbour from #02-37. Although I thought no one on the level 2 had moved in yet, i took her words for it as she sounded urgent. She told me her elder son is in hospital. Broke his leg or what. She needs to rush to hospital, but she cant get her husband. She hoped i can lend her $55. Looking at her anxious face, I took my last $50 note and passed to her. Very soon, I realised I was cheated coz there is no #02-37.

So ppl, dun be too kind. Well, at least, if you wanna help out, then please remember to check IC. Haiz.. this incident made me racist. Sorry, but i cant help it.

there are few occasions when someone "ding dong" the door bell @ hm...but by the time we time we take a peek, there is normally no one @ the door..it normally happens in the aftnn..

anyone encounter the same??

[meowie49 1]

I think this one is there to collect empty carton boxes, i may have seen them at my block lobby before, but dunno is it the same ppl. Just becareful and anything can always call our Mr MIB to check the areas.

Confirm no lor.. 2 relatively big size guy pushing 1 trolley to collect carton. Nope...

This one is it the uncle doing the gate hinges? Hehe....

nope. Coz i am the more KPO type.. when he came to my level, i actually walk over to my door to see.. coz I think he walks towards my neighbour unit (the one renovating). when he saw me, he faster walks to the unit beside it and then meme(the dog) barks.. then he faster walks to the unit beside me (TRYING to see the unit number like tat).... without looking at me... and FINALLY, he headed for the stairs...

if it is that uncle doing hinges or castle lock, i would have recognised coz my doors done both things... unless is a different uncle then i might be wrong le.. but that guy looks suspicious lor..

[Dracula 0]

Confirm no lor.. 2 relatively big size guy pushing 1 trolley to collect carton. Nope...

nope. Coz i am the more KPO type.. when he came to my level, i actually walk over to my door to see.. coz I think he walks towards my neighbour unit (the one renovating). when he saw me, he faster walks to the unit beside it and then meme(the dog) barks.. then he faster walks to the unit beside me (TRYING to see the unit number like tat).... without looking at me... and FINALLY, he headed for the stairs...

if it is that uncle doing hinges or castle lock, i would have recognised coz my doors done both things... unless is a different uncle then i might be wrong le.. but that guy looks suspicious lor..

Hmmm... hehe then like that must be extra extra careful ah. Think they targeting your neighbour ah.... waiting for the chance to bring home some good stuffs. Better warn them before its too late ah...

if u dun like them, then dun care loh...

Hey anyway how long was the power shut down? heard its only about 30mins... is it the same for you?

I afraid my ice creams will melt lah... Hehehe....

[meowie49 1]

Hmmm... hehe then like that must be extra extra careful ah. Think they targeting your neighbour ah.... waiting for the chance to bring home some good stuffs. Better warn them before its too late ah...

if u dun like them, then dun care loh...

Hey anyway how long was the power shut down? heard its only about 30mins... is it the same for you?

I afraid my ice creams will melt lah... Hehehe....

it is abt 45min... dun worry abt the ice-cream

wont melt.. haha.... my neighbours all very kind and good... the coming one is from thai... hehehe... also ok...

[Dracula 0]

it is abt 45min... dun worry abt the ice-cream

wont melt.. haha.... my neighbours all very kind and good... the coming one is from thai... hehehe... also ok...

Oh ok ok. If melt i bring the receipt to you and claim ok. Hahaha....

Neighbours are ok is the most important ah... lata keep complaining also sianz....

[meepok 0]

For the benefit of fellow 79ers who did not buy yesterday's TNP...

Break-ins, thefts, murder... Cops & residents patrol high-rise Toa Payoh blocks

Thieves hit units under renovation

By Celine Lim

August 21, 2008

TOA Payoh Central's soaring, new HDB blocks have been attracting attention lately.

Not just for their imposing 40-storey height, but for some unseemly goings-on.

This year, Blocks 79A to 79E, which were completed last year, have seen break-ins, thefts and even one murder.

Some residents, who were part of the selective en-bloc redevelopment scheme, moved in at the end of last year.

For some, the death of Block 79C resident Koh Sam Hong, 73, who was found stabbed in the chest on 31Jul, was the last straw.

They e-mailed The New Paper with their concern at what they saw as the 'large number of crimes... break-ins, car break-ins and even a murder' in the new estate.

The police, while unable to provide crime statistics for the blocks, are aware of the residents' concerns and are educating them on crime prevention measures.

A crime prevention advisory, posted in the lift lobbies on 18Jun, mentioned eight cases of thefts-in-dwelling at Blocks 78 and 79 between January and June.

The culprits usually hit units under renovation. They would tamper with the locks or cut the metal chains used by contractors to secure the main door.

Items stolen included refrigerators, DVD recorders, home theatre systems, ceiling fan lights and cables.

Furniture Stolen

A couple living in Block 79C said the furniture was stolen while their unit was being renovated three months ago.

A Housing Board (HDB) spokesman said nearly two-thirds of the 1,158 units in the five towers of Block 79 are now occupied, with more expected to be filled from next month.

Some residents reported the crimes through an online renovation forum.

In one posting on 17May, forum writer meowie49 said her TV splitter and doorbell casing had been stolen.

Two days later, she posted: 'When the HDB guy came, we asked if he can take the neighbour's (doorbell casing) for us first (as they had not moved in). He checked and said theirs was stolen too.'

Another forum writer, jacky777, said the electrical switches and socket outlets in the Block 79 flats were stolen as they are 'a well-known brand'.

Madam Ryane Lim, 25, a bank executive, said a decorative marine bell hung outside her flat was stolen a few weeks ago.

She said: 'I went out for an hour and when I returned, it was gone. My husband bought it in Germany and was upset.'

But not all residents are worried. At least 10 residents whom The New Paper approached said they had not heard of any thefts or break-ins.

A 72-year-old retiree, Mr Chong, said: 'I think it's very safe here. Nothing has happened to me or to anyone I know.'

Others shrugged off the incidents.

Mr Titus Chia, 38, a musician, said: 'I think the crimes will stop once the delivery men and contractors finish their work.'

Loiterers

But one thing that's unlikely to change is the people who loiter in the sky garden late into the night.

The sky garden, the first of its kind in an HDB estate, is a 12th-storey landscaped path linking all the blocks.

A resident who lives next to it said people are there 'at all times of the day'.

The sales executive, who wanted to be known only as Madam Lum, 30, said: 'In the day, there are people studying and playing their stereo. At night, I've seen couples petting.

'My brother-in-law has seen people vomiting. They had alcohol with them.'

Some visitors to the garden do not live there.

Madam Lim said: 'There's been graffiti - words sprayed or written on chairs and tables. But it's a public garden. We can't stop people from using it.'

The HDB spokesman said: 'Security factors are carefully considered in the design of HDB flats and precincts.

'The sky garden adopts an open concept that is seen easily from the surrounding blocks. Carparks are built at easily accessible locations with decks and staircases that can be viewed by residents.'

But residents themselves need to be vigilant, the spokesman added, especially if the precinct is new and residents are moving in progressively.

Additional reporting by Melissa Tan, newsroom intern

http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,...,173861,00.html?

[alister 0]

i think the schedule is

20th Aug 2008 - 79C

21st Aug 2008 - 79D

22nd Aug 2008 - 79E

So today is 79B???

Hmm......

I think you have a whole load of stuff in your fridge to move ah.... better get someone closer at 79B or 79D ah... hopefully they wun take 6 hours to start back the power... if not dun know how many Arowanas, discus will start floating....

FYI - the power interruption for 79D happens between 11.00 to 11.20am.

[meowie49 1]

Something to share with all forumers...

Initially, there is 1 neighbour whose metal gate lock is stucked and gate cannot open. We thought it is someone trying to break open the gate. Today, another neighbour told me abt her metal gate locked spoilt too. Then I realised mine is also shaky already.. Hmmmm.... according to this neighbour, when her locksmith came, he told her that the lock was made with inferior quality material.

I intend to go to the service center and request for my lock to be changed tomorrow. Will inform you all of the outcome.

[tweakmax 0]

anyone notice the rust on our lift doors?

[Hana79 0]

Benefit for those whom did not buy the papers

We got the famous Meowie49 and Jacky777 in the news!

Click for a bigger picture

Quote of the day!

"When the HDB guy came, we asked if he can take the neighbour's (doorbell casing) for us first. He checked and said theirs was stolen too."

- Forum writer meowie49, whose TV splitter and doorbell casing were stolen

Congratz Meowie & Jacky for being celebs!

Now tt attention is drawn to the plight of our blk residents, let me know if u think there's still a need 2meet w NPP &/ TC on any new, further or oustanding issues & feedback. If no nid, I will inform RC chair, ok?

- Proposed Meeting w NPP, 2b arranged by TPCZone2 RC

- Time: 3pm, Sat 6 Sept* OR, Sat 13 Sept*. Pls indicate if u wish to hv dialogue w NPP* and/or Town Council*

- Agenda:

i) burglaries, suspicious characters@ fire escape stairs (info & preventive measures, advice)

ii) recommendations on unbecoming conduct of students/punks loiterin@SkyGdn..(graffiti, litterin, intimacy..)

iii) dangerous acts eg. sittin on railing, ball flyin over railing onto passersby/ vehicles below, water bombs...)

iv) any other (residents'/NPP/TC*) observations & comments

1. Hana79 - Blk C. NPP & TC. 6 Sep (13 Sep ok but earlier better)

2. Meepok & Babymaro2003 - Blk E. Sat 3pm

3. Khim & missy - Blk D. Sun 5pm

4. Stay79 & hubby - Blk E. Sat 3pm

5. Dracula & Wife - Blk E. NPP & TC. 6 Sep (my agenda will be mainly i & ii)

6. Meowie49 - Blk C. 6 Sep

[meepok 0]

Heard from the grapevine that the TC/RC has taken notice of our concerns. They are aware of the on-going nuisance and will be coming up with some measures to hopefully resolve the situation on the Sky Garden.

Let's hope for some good news in the coming weeks.

I'll rest my case for the time being.

Edited August 21, 2008 by meepok

[Hana79 0]

I can help with putting up the signs but first I got to know the TC's stand on this... will I be penalised for displaying these signs instead? Cos it's also a form of vandalism since I'm not authorised by the TC or HDB.

Can any of the RC or TC people reading advise on this? Hana79?

Hi Meepok,

I aint no authority on tis but I reckon we r not empowered w da right to post any bills, signs, banners etc there.. then urs & Alister's efforts go to waste only..

[alister 0]

Hi all

Just had a quick chat with the RC chairman this afternoon. He is aware of our concerns and is addressing them. Pls give them time to work out a solution. As it involves many parties, they definitely need some time to study.

If I am installing CCTV at the garden, I will require at least 3 month duration - invite tender, figure out best location to mount the cameras, decide who's responsible to monitor it 24 x 7. If crime is spotted, what is the procedure to follow etc.

Even asking the painters to paint over those "wordings" on the wall, they need to get approval for the budget to spend and getting the contractors to find a time to come down etc.

So pls tone down those bashing as they are volunteers just out to help us residents. Like I said earlier, one of the renotalk member is also a RC member. In a way, we should appreciate their effort as they hold full time jobs as well.

I suggest we still go ahead with the planned meeting with the police to highlight our concerns.

For those who don't know me, I am not a govt spy or supporter; just happen that I try to put myself in their shoes.

I have talked to Meepok and he agrees with me on certain points so let's make peace currently.

Side issue - I also have my wife and my sandals missing when I put it out at the open shoe rack outside my hse; so I just keep it in hse now as my floor receives many "visitors" at night. And alot of couples carrying out their courtship at the staircase.

[Hana79 0]

On a side note, beware of the following people.

1) 1 early 30s female indian with her little boy.

2) 1 late 40s female indian. (In pajamas)

I have not met the 40s female indian. But it happened to my neighbour. This is what happened.

I am at home cooking when someone pressed my dorbell urgently. I went to the door and there I saw the early 30s female with her boy. She sounded urgent and told me she is my neighbour from #02-37. Although I thought no one on the level 2 had moved in yet, i took her words for it as she sounded urgent. She told me her elder son is in hospital. Broke his leg or what. She needs to rush to hospital, but she cant get her husband. She hoped i can lend her $55. Looking at her anxious face, I took my last $50 note and passed to her. Very soon, I realised I was cheated coz there is no #02-37.

So ppl, dun be too kind. Well, at least, if you wanna help out, then please remember to check IC. Haiz.. this incident made me racist. Sorry, but i cant help it.

Hey Meowie,

Tks for telling me abt tis earlier, and Good of u 2share w others here, bravo!

BTW, I find it most unbecoming whn u said u only know 1 day b4hand of power shutdown for our blk & ur last min scambling for a fridge!

I, wud hv experienced da same had I moved in or, be really uncomfortable if I were visitin my unit 2pack/clean thgs w/out any fan.

Hi all

Just had a quick chat with the RC chairman this afternoon. He is aware of our concerns and is addressing them. Pls give them time to work out a solution. As it involves many parties, they definitely need some time to study.

If I am installing CCTV at the garden, I will require at least 3 month duration - invite tender, figure out best location to mount the cameras, decide who's responsible to monitor it 24 x 7. If crime is spotted, what is the procedure to follow etc.

Even asking the painters to paint over those "wordings" on the wall, they need to get approval for the budget to spend and getting the contractors to find a time to come down etc.

So pls tone down those bashing as they are volunteers just out to help us residents. Like I said earlier, one of the renotalk member is also a RC member. In a way, we should appreciate their effort as they hold full time jobs as well.

I suggest we still go ahead with the planned meeting with the police to highlight our concerns.

For those who don't know me, I am not a govt spy or supporter; just happen that I try to put myself in their shoes.

I have talked to Meepok and he agrees with me on certain points so let's make peace currently.

Side issue - I also have my wife and my sandals missing when I put it out at the open shoe rack outside my hse; so I just keep it in hse now as my floor receives many "visitors" at night. And alot of couples carrying out their courtship at the staircase.

Hi Alister,

Meeting - besides showing our concerns, oso info gathering/update by authorities.. do lemme know if u can attend, k? : )

Ur remark goes 2prove thieves not only strike@ lower flrs lyk Meowie's & mine but oso high flrs too (i seem 2rem u stay real high flr, rite?)so, residents beware, ok?

->I orig intended 2put some sandals os but now, w Alister's reminder & my personal experience w stolen doorbell (all my neighs' too), I may hv 2reconsider, sigh!

Edited August 21, 2008 by Hana79