Please Help To See If This Is A Resonable Quote From Contractor

[m00nman26 0]

Dear All,

I had recently bought a resale flat (5 rm) and after a few rounds with some contractors, had gotten this quotation.

Would anyone be able to advice me on whether it is reasonable and whether any areas which i can try to negotiate for better price.

PAINTING WORKS

1. Paint whole house using I.C.I paint with ceiling painte white

(Nippon white) including pipe and door frame $1,500.00

DOOR WORKS

1. To supply and install 2 no. of bio-fold doors at toilet at $170 per unit $340.00

2. To supply and install 4 no. of classic door done with lock and door

stopper at $150 per unit $600.00

3. Supply and install 1 no. of wrought iron gate (4"x7") $420.00

WET WORKS

1. To hack existing kitchen flooring and to supply and install new

homogenous floor tiles (price of tiles range from $2.50 to $3.00) $1,300.00

2. To hack existing kitchen wall tiles and to supply and install new tiles

to ceiling height (only exposed area will be tiled up), price of tiles

range from $2.50 to $3.00) $2,600.00

3. To seal up doorway **** hall for T.V console support $350.00

4. To hack existing both toilet flooring and supply and install new

homogenous tiles with waterproofing membrance at $450 per unit $900.00

5. To construst base for cabinet, washing machine, fridge "2 high $250.00

6. To demolish existing wall separating kitchen and living hall and make

good wall (1/2 wall height, 1 metre from floor) $400.00

7. Demolish of wall to create new M.B.R doorway with door Krones

and make good marble floor $350.00

8. To seal up existing master bedroom doorway using hollow block $250.00

9. To hack existing wall tiles and to supply and install to ceiling height at

$1600 per unit (Price of tiles range from $2.50 to $3.00) $3,500.00

MISCELLANENOUS WORKS

1. To demolish existing built-in furniture, glass block **** area and

demolition of existing false ceiling **** and dining hall and dismantle

kitchen cabinet $600.00

2. Protection of flooring with corrugated cardboard for living and dining

and all bedrooms (if needed plywood to be used also) $280.00

PLUMBING WORKS

1. To replace existing piping to stainless steel pipe for both toilets and

kitchen (cold water inlet only) $800.00

2. To supply labour to install 2 sets W.C bowls at $80 per unit $160.00

and bedroom

3. To supply labour to install 2 sets instant water heater at $40 per unit $80.00

4. To supply labour to install 2 sets bathroom accessories at $40 per set $80.00

5. To supply labour to install 2 units of wash basin at $60 per unit $120.00

6. To supply labour to install sink connection $70.00

7. To repolish marble for living hall and 3 bedrooms $1,200.00

CEILING WORKS

1. To supply and install L-box **** and dining $950.00

ELECTRICAL WORKS

1. Electrical works to be quoted separately

CARPENTARY WORKS

A. FOYER AREA

1. To fabricate and install low shoe cabinet (2100L x 450H) $600.00

2. To install and supply 50cm cushion for shoe cabinet $1,540.00

3. To fabricate shoe storage cabinet (1200L x 2400H) $720.00

B. LIVING AREA

1. Fabricate and install T.V feature wall and install suspended low T.V

console (2400L x 2400H) $1,500.00

C. MASTER BEDROOM

1. Fabricate and install built-in wardrobe c/w sliding door

(2400L x 2400H) $1,600.00

D. KITCHEN

1. Fabricate and install 41 ft run top and bottom cabinet (all doors

c/w ABS trimming) $3,485.00

2. Fabricate and install solid surface 26 ft run $1,690.00

3. Supply and install 3 no. of aluminium frame frosted glass door $130.00

Total: $28,365.00

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Edited December 11, 2009 by m00nman26

[pinkpetter 0]

PAINTING WORKS

1. Paint whole house using I.C.I paint with ceiling painte white

(Nippon white) including pipe and door frame $1,500.00 (1250) includes sealant?

DOOR WORKS

1. To supply and install 2 no. of bio-fold doors at toilet at $170 per unit $340.00

2. To supply and install 4 no. of classic door done with lock and door

stopper at $150 per unit $600.00

3. Supply and install 1 no. of wrought iron gate (4"x7") $420.00 (250)

WET WORKS

1. To hack existing kitchen flooring and to supply and install new

homogenous floor tiles (price of tiles range from $2.50 to $3.00) $1,300.00 (including waterproofing?)

2. To hack existing kitchen wall tiles and to supply and install new tiles

to ceiling height (only exposed area will be tiled up), price of tiles

range from $2.50 to $3.00) $2,600.00

3. To seal up doorway **** hall for T.V console support $350.00

4. To hack existing both toilet flooring and supply and install new

homogenous tiles with waterproofing membrance at $450 per unit $900.00

5. To construst base for cabinet, washing machine, fridge "2 high $250.00 (do you really need the W/M and fridge base?)

6. To demolish existing wall separating kitchen and living hall and make

good wall (1/2 wall height, 1 metre from floor) $400.00

7. Demolish of wall to create new M.B.R doorway with door Krones

and make good marble floor $350.00

8. To seal up existing master bedroom doorway using hollow block $250.00

9. To hack existing wall tiles and to supply and install to ceiling height at

$1600 per unit (Price of tiles range from $2.50 to $3.00) $3,500.00 (where is this? toilet ah?)

MISCELLANENOUS WORKS

1. To demolish existing built-in furniture, glass block **** area and

demolition of existing false ceiling **** and dining hall and dismantle

kitchen cabinet $600.00

2. Protection of flooring with corrugated cardboard for living and dining

and all bedrooms (if needed plywood to be used also) $280.00

PLUMBING WORKS

1. To replace existing piping to stainless steel pipe for both toilets and

kitchen (cold water inlet only) $800.00

2. To supply labour to install 2 sets W.C bowls at $80 per unit $160.00

and bedroom

3. To supply labour to install 2 sets instant water heater at $40 per unit $80.00

4. To supply labour to install 2 sets bathroom accessories at $40 per set $80.00 (cannot waive?)

5. To supply labour to install 2 units of wash basin at $60 per unit $120.00

6. To supply labour to install sink connection $70.00 (shouldn't this be under plumbing?)

7. To repolish marble for living hall and 3 bedrooms $1,200.00

CEILING WORKS

1. To supply and install L-box **** and dining $950.00

ELECTRICAL WORKS

1. Electrical works to be quoted separately

CARPENTARY WORKS

A. FOYER AREA

1. To fabricate and install low shoe cabinet (2100L x 450H) $600.00

2. To install and supply 50cm cushion for shoe cabinet $1,540.00

3. To fabricate shoe storage cabinet (1200L x 2400H) $720.00

B. LIVING AREA

1. Fabricate and install T.V feature wall and install suspended low T.V

console (2400L x 2400H) $1,500.00

C. MASTER BEDROOM

1. Fabricate and install built-in wardrobe c/w sliding door

(2400L x 2400H) $1,600.00

D. KITCHEN

1. Fabricate and install 41 ft run top and bottom cabinet (all doors

c/w ABS trimming) $3,485.00

2. Fabricate and install solid surface 26 ft run $1,690.00 (brand? and 26ft very long leh.)

3. Supply and install 3 no. of aluminium frame frosted glass door $130.00

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Actually pricing seems ok... no shower screen? windows? grilles? no haulage fees? Your hacking cost is all over a little hard to calculate..

[zhiz 4]

wrought iron gate can be only $250?

btw i notice carpentry very high for shoe cabinet and the cushion

[MTlot 0]

Very reasonable quotation, some things are cheap and some are not. Very reasonable for a 5rm, please bear in mind that good things never come cheap, have you seen their workmanship?

[Supersimon27 2]

look reasonable for me too .

[m00nman26 0]

Thanks all for your responses, and the breakdown of items. Yes the shoe cabinet cushioning is rather expensive and I was thinking to take it out.

Would be going down to take a look at their workmanship at one of the completed units later

[Summer Forever 0]

Hi,

For saying this, think the contractors & ID will hate me.

Just did my reno for condo recently, most things DIY.

Maybe due to my job (I'm in sales) so I understand that all things are cheaper if go direct. The contractors & IDs will sublet the jobs out to 3rd party and thus need to mark up prices.

My direct contacts & reno jobs

1)I engaged direct co. to hack my condo kitchen & 2 toilets (floor & wall tiles, kitchen cabinet, removal of sanitary wares in toilets & removal of debris) - for only $2K

I heard from the boss that the cost is lower for HDB as condo is strict with the reno timing so it would take them more days to complete as compared to HDB thus the higher cost for condo. ** The boss is so sweet to help hack wardrobe & other shelvings all at no extra cost.

The quotes that I get from contractors & IDs for just hacking (Kitchen & toilet wall & floor tiles) & removal of debris is - $2,600 - $2,800

** See the savings for going direct??

2) bi-fold doors, classic doors & iron gate - better to get direct from co. Source for quotes yourself & bargain a good price. The contractors would have earned 20-30% commission from your sales. If go direct, you may probably get 10-20% savings yourself. These co. can't offer 30% discount to direct customers as their main source of biz still come from IDs & contractors. Can't afford to offend them.

3) People know people in this trade. I got the contact for tiling job from my hacker. The tiler did my kitchen & toilet floor & wall tiles & I'm satisfied with the job done. I even went on site to see his workmanship & confirmed the job on the spot. I bought my own tiles though. Again, contractors will get 20-30% commission bringing you to choose tiles & you won't enjoy savings. I bought the tiles myself & got a discount for going direct (though the discount is not as much as the co. gives to contractor, but it's still savings)

The tiler charged me tiling job by per sqm, whereas the contractor charge me a lump sum. I heard from my tiler HDB toilet & kitchen tiling job is only $2+/sqm. The lowest quote I got from contractor is $3.50/sqm but my tiler only charges me $2.30/sqm. See the mark up? These contractors also find these tilers to do the job for them. The contractor get your deposit but will not pay these hacker & tilers, carpenters, plumbers etc so soon. So these people like to work direct with us, customers. Get paid on time.

4) For hacking of kitchen cabinet, the quote for direct is only $200-$300, but look, your quote is $600. All these savings here & there can get you new cutains, or whatever you like to buy.

5) I also engaged a worker for painting job (contact from my tiler). His pay is on daily basis. But same rules - I supply the paint etc. It's still cheaper than getting contractor. And contractor also earn commission from paint co.

6) I also engaged a co. to do my false ceiling in toilets (contact from my tiler). He quoted me $550 for 2 toilet false ceilings. My lowest quote from contractor is $780.

Enough said. Source direct will give you so much savings! : )

[kohnlee 0]

Thanks all for your responses, and the breakdown of items. Yes the shoe cabinet cushioning is rather expensive and I was thinking to take it out.

Would be going down to take a look at their workmanship at one of the completed units later

yes, show cabinet is ex..

[kohnlee 0]

Dear All,

I had recently bought a resale flat (5 rm) and after a few rounds with some contractors, had gotten this quotation.

Would anyone be able to advice me on whether it is reasonable and whether any areas which i can try to negotiate for better price.

PAINTING WORKS

1. Paint whole house using I.C.I paint with ceiling painte white

(Nippon white) including pipe and door frame $1,500.00

DOOR WORKS

1. To supply and install 2 no. of bio-fold doors at toilet at $170 per unit $340.00

2. To supply and install 4 no. of classic door done with lock and door

stopper at $150 per unit $600.00

3. Supply and install 1 no. of wrought iron gate (4"x7") $420.00

WET WORKS

1. To hack existing kitchen flooring and to supply and install new

homogenous floor tiles (price of tiles range from $2.50 to $3.00) $1,300.00

2. To hack existing kitchen wall tiles and to supply and install new tiles

to ceiling height (only exposed area will be tiled up), price of tiles

range from $2.50 to $3.00) $2,600.00

3. To seal up doorway **** hall for T.V console support $350.00

4. To hack existing both toilet flooring and supply and install new

homogenous tiles with waterproofing membrance at $450 per unit $900.00

5. To construst base for cabinet, washing machine, fridge "2 high $250.00

6. To demolish existing wall separating kitchen and living hall and make

good wall (1/2 wall height, 1 metre from floor) $400.00

7. Demolish of wall to create new M.B.R doorway with door Krones

and make good marble floor $350.00

8. To seal up existing master bedroom doorway using hollow block $250.00

9. To hack existing wall tiles and to supply and install to ceiling height at

$1600 per unit (Price of tiles range from $2.50 to $3.00) $3,500.00

MISCELLANENOUS WORKS

1. To demolish existing built-in furniture, glass block **** area and

demolition of existing false ceiling **** and dining hall and dismantle

kitchen cabinet $600.00

2. Protection of flooring with corrugated cardboard for living and dining

and all bedrooms (if needed plywood to be used also) $280.00

PLUMBING WORKS

1. To replace existing piping to stainless steel pipe for both toilets and

kitchen (cold water inlet only) $800.00

2. To supply labour to install 2 sets W.C bowls at $80 per unit $160.00

and bedroom

3. To supply labour to install 2 sets instant water heater at $40 per unit $80.00

4. To supply labour to install 2 sets bathroom accessories at $40 per set $80.00

5. To supply labour to install 2 units of wash basin at $60 per unit $120.00

6. To supply labour to install sink connection $70.00

7. To repolish marble for living hall and 3 bedrooms $1,200.00

CEILING WORKS

1. To supply and install L-box **** and dining $950.00

ELECTRICAL WORKS

1. Electrical works to be quoted separately

CARPENTARY WORKS

A. FOYER AREA

1. To fabricate and install low shoe cabinet (2100L x 450H) $600.00

2. To install and supply 50cm cushion for shoe cabinet $1,540.00

3. To fabricate shoe storage cabinet (1200L x 2400H) $720.00

B. LIVING AREA

1. Fabricate and install T.V feature wall and install suspended low T.V

console (2400L x 2400H) $1,500.00

C. MASTER BEDROOM

1. Fabricate and install built-in wardrobe c/w sliding door

(2400L x 2400H) $1,600.00

D. KITCHEN

1. Fabricate and install 41 ft run top and bottom cabinet (all doors

c/w ABS trimming) $3,485.00

2. Fabricate and install solid surface 26 ft run $1,690.00

3. Supply and install 3 no. of aluminium frame frosted glass door $130.00

Total: $28,365.00

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

This is mine for resale condo, 1238sqf

1) Master Bedroom

- Custom make 8.5 ft (L) full height wardrobe with sliding door + finishes with solid plywood, selected laminate, mirror and ABD trimming door

- Custom make 1 set of suspended king size bed frame with storage compartment, side table, bed head and finishes with solid plywood, selected laminate, cushion and lighting point

- Supply and install 1 13A x 2 double socket

- Supply granite top 10ft(L) at bay window

- Curve False ceiling + cove lighting

- Install 1 light point at planter

- Change toilet bowl

- 2 wall colour

- 5 lighting points

- Additional 1 double socket

2) Bedroom 1

- Custom make 6ft (L) wardrobe with sliding door (specs same as above wardrobe)

- Custom make 6ft (L) study table with drawers

- 3 units of suspended books cabinet 6ft (L)

- Supply 2 13A x 2 double socket

- Supply granite top 6ft (L)

- Supply labor to install 1 light fitting

- 2 wall colour

- Additional 2 double socket + 1 single socket

3) Bedroom 2

- Custom make 6ft (L) wardrobe with sliding door (specs same as above wardrobe)

- Supply granite top 6ft (L)

- Supply labor to install 1 light fitting

- 2 wall colour

4) Living and dining area

- Custom make 5 nos shelving inside DB box

- Custom make 14ft (L) designer TV console finishes with solid plywood, selected laminate, colored glass panel and ABS trimming door

- Designer area using gypsum board, finishes with plaster and paint

- False ceiling + light box + cove lighting for living and dining area

- Wall mirror feature for dining area

- 10 lighting points

- Additional 2 double socket

- 1 wall colour

5) Others

- Indoor and outdoor painting

- Chemical washing

- Polish existing granite flooring

- Revarnish + lacquer for all doors, pacquet floor + skirting

- Paint all doors to dark walnut

- Replace all existing switch cover, door bell, etc...to white designer switches

- Construct base for fridge and washing machine

- 1 wall colour for kitchen

- Labour to change kitchen sink

Total cost: Appro. $17, 000

Hmm...I hope I did not miss out anything...cos we did some additional works..

U can view www.kohnlee.blogspot.com for progress of renovation

[m00nman26 0]

This is mine for resale condo, 1238sqf

1) Master Bedroom

- Custom make 8.5 ft (L) full height wardrobe with sliding door + finishes with solid plywood, selected laminate, mirror and ABD trimming door

- Custom make 1 set of suspended king size bed frame with storage compartment, side table, bed head and finishes with solid plywood, selected laminate, cushion and lighting point

- Supply and install 1 13A x 2 double socket

- Supply granite top 10ft(L) at bay window

- Curve False ceiling + cove lighting

- Install 1 light point at planter

- Change toilet bowl

- 2 wall colour

- 5 lighting points

- Additional 1 double socket

2) Bedroom 1

- Custom make 6ft (L) wardrobe with sliding door (specs same as above wardrobe)

- Custom make 6ft (L) study table with drawers

- 3 units of suspended books cabinet 6ft (L)

- Supply 2 13A x 2 double socket

- Supply granite top 6ft (L)

- Supply labor to install 1 light fitting

- 2 wall colour

- Additional 2 double socket + 1 single socket

3) Bedroom 2

- Custom make 6ft (L) wardrobe with sliding door (specs same as above wardrobe)

- Supply granite top 6ft (L)

- Supply labor to install 1 light fitting

- 2 wall colour

4) Living and dining area

- Custom make 5 nos shelving inside DB box

- Custom make 14ft (L) designer TV console finishes with solid plywood, selected laminate, colored glass panel and ABS trimming door

- Designer area using gypsum board, finishes with plaster and paint

- False ceiling + light box + cove lighting for living and dining area

- Wall mirror feature for dining area

- 10 lighting points

- Additional 2 double socket

- 1 wall colour

5) Others

- Indoor and outdoor painting

- Chemical washing

- Polish existing granite flooring

- Revarnish + lacquer for all doors, pacquet floor + skirting

- Paint all doors to dark walnut

- Replace all existing switch cover, door bell, etc...to white designer switches

- Construct base for fridge and washing machine

- 1 wall colour for kitchen

- Labour to change kitchen sink

Total cost: Appro. $17, 000

Hmm...I hope I did not miss out anything...cos we did some additional works..

U can view www.kohnlee.blogspot.com for progress of renovation

Wow that is a very good price! thanks for sharing.

[starblume 0]

Hi,

For saying this, think the contractors & ID will hate me.

Just did my reno for condo recently, most things DIY.

Maybe due to my job (I'm in sales) so I understand that all things are cheaper if go direct. The contractors & IDs will sublet the jobs out to 3rd party and thus need to mark up prices.

My direct contacts & reno jobs

1)I engaged direct co. to hack my condo kitchen & 2 toilets (floor & wall tiles, kitchen cabinet, removal of sanitary wares in toilets & removal of debris) - for only $2K

I heard from the boss that the cost is lower for HDB as condo is strict with the reno timing so it would take them more days to complete as compared to HDB thus the higher cost for condo. ** The boss is so sweet to help hack wardrobe & other shelvings all at no extra cost.

The quotes that I get from contractors & IDs for just hacking (Kitchen & toilet wall & floor tiles) & removal of debris is - $2,600 - $2,800

** See the savings for going direct??

2) bi-fold doors, classic doors & iron gate - better to get direct from co. Source for quotes yourself & bargain a good price. The contractors would have earned 20-30% commission from your sales. If go direct, you may probably get 10-20% savings yourself. These co. can't offer 30% discount to direct customers as their main source of biz still come from IDs & contractors. Can't afford to offend them.

3) People know people in this trade. I got the contact for tiling job from my hacker. The tiler did my kitchen & toilet floor & wall tiles & I'm satisfied with the job done. I even went on site to see his workmanship & confirmed the job on the spot. I bought my own tiles though. Again, contractors will get 20-30% commission bringing you to choose tiles & you won't enjoy savings. I bought the tiles myself & got a discount for going direct (though the discount is not as much as the co. gives to contractor, but it's still savings)

The tiler charged me tiling job by per sqm, whereas the contractor charge me a lump sum. I heard from my tiler HDB toilet & kitchen tiling job is only $2+/sqm. The lowest quote I got from contractor is $3.50/sqm but my tiler only charges me $2.30/sqm. See the mark up? These contractors also find these tilers to do the job for them. The contractor get your deposit but will not pay these hacker & tilers, carpenters, plumbers etc so soon. So these people like to work direct with us, customers. Get paid on time.

4) For hacking of kitchen cabinet, the quote for direct is only $200-$300, but look, your quote is $600. All these savings here & there can get you new cutains, or whatever you like to buy.

5) I also engaged a worker for painting job (contact from my tiler). His pay is on daily basis. But same rules - I supply the paint etc. It's still cheaper than getting contractor. And contractor also earn commission from paint co.

6) I also engaged a co. to do my false ceiling in toilets (contact from my tiler). He quoted me $550 for 2 toilet false ceilings. My lowest quote from contractor is $780.

Enough said. Source direct will give you so much savings! : )

Hi Summer Forever,

Can pm me your contact for the hacking co. please?

thanks

[seesee 0]

5) I also engaged a worker for painting job (contact from my tiler). His pay is on daily basis. But same rules - I supply the paint etc. It's still cheaper than getting contractor. And contractor also earn commission from paint co.

is his painting skills good and cost?

I can supply paint and tools

I am interested in this worker, as I don't trust contractor with my paints..

if this worker can do plastering, I am even more happy

[Seven 0]

Summer, pls send me your hacking and other direct contacts you have thanks.

Hi,

For saying this, think the contractors & ID will hate me.

Just did my reno for condo recently, most things DIY.

Maybe due to my job (I'm in sales) so I understand that all things are cheaper if go direct. The contractors & IDs will sublet the jobs out to 3rd party and thus need to mark up prices.

My direct contacts & reno jobs

1)I engaged direct co. to hack my condo kitchen & 2 toilets (floor & wall tiles, kitchen cabinet, removal of sanitary wares in toilets & removal of debris) - for only $2K

I heard from the boss that the cost is lower for HDB as condo is strict with the reno timing so it would take them more days to complete as compared to HDB thus the higher cost for condo. ** The boss is so sweet to help hack wardrobe & other shelvings all at no extra cost.

The quotes that I get from contractors & IDs for just hacking (Kitchen & toilet wall & floor tiles) & removal of debris is - $2,600 - $2,800

** See the savings for going direct??

2) bi-fold doors, classic doors & iron gate - better to get direct from co. Source for quotes yourself & bargain a good price. The contractors would have earned 20-30% commission from your sales. If go direct, you may probably get 10-20% savings yourself. These co. can't offer 30% discount to direct customers as their main source of biz still come from IDs & contractors. Can't afford to offend them.

3) People know people in this trade. I got the contact for tiling job from my hacker. The tiler did my kitchen & toilet floor & wall tiles & I'm satisfied with the job done. I even went on site to see his workmanship & confirmed the job on the spot. I bought my own tiles though. Again, contractors will get 20-30% commission bringing you to choose tiles & you won't enjoy savings. I bought the tiles myself & got a discount for going direct (though the discount is not as much as the co. gives to contractor, but it's still savings)

The tiler charged me tiling job by per sqm, whereas the contractor charge me a lump sum. I heard from my tiler HDB toilet & kitchen tiling job is only $2+/sqm. The lowest quote I got from contractor is $3.50/sqm but my tiler only charges me $2.30/sqm. See the mark up? These contractors also find these tilers to do the job for them. The contractor get your deposit but will not pay these hacker & tilers, carpenters, plumbers etc so soon. So these people like to work direct with us, customers. Get paid on time.

4) For hacking of kitchen cabinet, the quote for direct is only $200-$300, but look, your quote is $600. All these savings here & there can get you new cutains, or whatever you like to buy.

5) I also engaged a worker for painting job (contact from my tiler). His pay is on daily basis. But same rules - I supply the paint etc. It's still cheaper than getting contractor. And contractor also earn commission from paint co.

6) I also engaged a co. to do my false ceiling in toilets (contact from my tiler). He quoted me $550 for 2 toilet false ceilings. My lowest quote from contractor is $780.

Enough said. Source direct will give you so much savings! : )

[Zelly 0]

Please also send me your contacts for tiler and painter please. Thanks so much!

[gimz63251073 0]

26ft solid top, how to go into HDB? hmmmm got typo anot?