Mickey M 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Sad to say that I am not doing something as special as what ossify suggested - tiling my ceiling. Hahaha Maybe u are tiling all your walls including bedrooms and living room? Haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annjoy 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) My colleague who is also renovating at the same time has decided to do the resort theme as well with brown and white as the 2 main colours. -,-!! so much for trying to be different!! Haha Oh more urgent note, I need all your opinions on the below 3 problems: 1) This is what my common room toilet will roughly look like with dark floor tiles. Should I put 2 or 3 pieces of mosaics between each white tile? Johnny say both also okay.. I cannot decide. :/ 2) Should the kitchen sink be nearer to the fridge or nearer to the dustbin? My drawing above initially put the sink nearer to the dustbin because don't want rubbish to drip too much as I bring the rubbish to the chute. But I also recognise that whatever I take out form the fridge, I need to wash before cooking. Whatever I finish cooking, I need to wash. So logically it should be in the middle. What do you all think? 3) Main door grille - is $480 to replace it expensive? Edited December 28, 2009 by annjoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) My colleague who is also renovating at the same time has decided to do the resort theme as well with brown and white as the 2 main colours. -,-!! so much for trying to be different!! Haha Oh more urgent note, I need all your opinions on the below 3 problems: 1) This is what my common room toilet will roughly look like with dark floor tiles. Should I put 2 or 3 pieces of mosaics between each white tile? Johnny say both also okay.. I cannot decide. :/ Please consider the width of your bathroom, the width of the white tile and the width of 2 or 3 mosaic tile. It would be good if your ID can give you an elevation sketch of how the tiling will look like. You might not like it if your white tile ends off abruptly at the corner of your bathroom. Ask him to sketch one with 2 mosaic tile and one with 3 mosaic tile. Or if he's lazy, you can DIY sketch it and ask him to give $100 discount 2) Should the kitchen sink be nearer to the fridge or nearer to the dustbin? My drawing above initially put the sink nearer to the dustbin because don't want rubbish to drip too much as I bring the rubbish to the chute. But I also recognise that whatever I take out form the fridge, I need to wash before cooking. Whatever I finish cooking, I need to wash. So logically it should be in the middle. What do you all think? Your kitchen does not have the workspace triangle of fridge, prep, and cook. Yours is a straight line. It'll be annoying because your sink and your fridge are at opposite ends and your cooking area is in between. I would like to suggest putting your fridge in another spot but if that is not possible, then.. I suggest you take a look at the food prep area between your cooking area and your washing area. Is 50cm enough for you to prepare food? For me, it's not. Do you really need 50cm between cooking and fridge? 30cm is more than sufficient for me. 20cm minimum. I suggest you maximize the space between your sink and your cooking area so you can prepare food easily. But ensure that your sink doesn't block the rubbish chute. Personally, I feel your workspace is too cramped. 3) Main door grille - is $480 to replace it expensive? Iron wrought? aluminium gate, 3ft x 7ft, cost around $450 to $500. Edited December 28, 2009 by ossify Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmay 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2009 I saw this pic from dmay's t-blog. Her kitchen: The wood laminates look nice. I think this looks nicer than the 3D johnny gave me huh Thanks for the comments Just a note: Do check out your ID's carpentry work if you are using white laminate. I think there are lot of people with the 'black line' issues. Most will say ABS trimming for doors but not frames, so you have to be careful abt this. An alternative is to use the more expensive white laminate where the raw side of it is also white in color. Just my 2 cents worth I'm using white glossy laminate + wood, something that you are looking at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annjoy 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) Please consider the width of your bathroom, the width of the white tile and the width of 2 or 3 mosaic tile. It would be good if your ID can give you an elevation sketch of how the tiling will look like. You might not like it if your white tile ends off abruptly at the corner of your bathroom. Ask him to sketch one with 2 mosaic tile and one with 3 mosaic tile. Or if he's lazy, you can DIY sketch it and ask him to give $100 discount ok.. noted! Your kitchen does not have the workspace triangle of fridge, prep, and cook. Yours is a straight line. It'll be annoying because your sink and your fridge are at opposite ends and your cooking area is in between. I would like to suggest putting your fridge in another spot but if that is not possible, then.. I suggest you take a look at the food prep area between your cooking area and your washing area. Is 50cm enough for you to prepare food? For me, it's not. Do you really need 50cm between cooking and fridge? 30cm is more than sufficient for me. 20cm minimum. I suggest you maximize the space between your sink and your cooking area so you can prepare food easily. But ensure that your sink doesn't block the rubbish chute. Personally, I feel your workspace is too cramped. TOTAL: 4m 0.9m - allowance for fridge (my ideal fridge is going to be 0.7m in width... standard for those tall and slim units?) 0.4m - space between fridge and sink 0.9m - size of sink 0.8m - space between sink and cooker 0.8m - size of cooker hob (won't be having any oven underneath the cooker) 0.2m - space between sink and wall How about this? Meaning the sink will be between fridge and cooker. Edited December 28, 2009 by annjoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annjoy 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Thanks for the comments Just a note: Do check out your ID's carpentry work if you are using white laminate. I think there are lot of people with the 'black line' issues. Most will say ABS trimming for doors but not frames, so you have to be careful abt this. An alternative is to use the more expensive white laminate where the raw side of it is also white in color. Just my 2 cents worth I'm using white glossy laminate + wood, something that you are looking at? Yes that is what I am looking at as well. But is your wood glossy? Someone mentioned before that matt wood and glossy white not nice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmay 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) Yes that is what I am looking at as well. But is your wood glossy? Someone mentioned before that matt wood and glossy white not nice? Nope, mine is matt wood + glossy white Keke, actually it's a different look I think. If glossy + glossy will give a very classy feel... Edited December 28, 2009 by dmay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) TOTAL: 4m 0.9m - allowance for fridge (my ideal fridge is going to be 0.7m in width... standard for those tall and slim units?) 0.4m - space between fridge and sink 0.9m - size of sink 0.8m - space between sink and cooker 0.8m - size of cooker hob (won't be having any oven underneath the cooker) 0.2m - space between sink and wall How about this? Meaning the sink will be between fridge and cooker. the fridge i am getting is 60cm wide, as my kitchen is small. do you really need 90cm for fridge? big family of 6? if you allocate 0.7m, then keep it at 0.7m, not 0.9m. extra space looks weird go fridge shopping to decide what width you want to have. fridge/sink/hob/chute is a better plan make sure the allowance between hob and chute of 0.2m is not too tight, make sure that the rubbish chute can open and you can throw full bags of rubbish in. i think this may be a problem for 0.2m. if you want to increase to 0.3m, you can decrease distance between fridge and hob to 0.3m or 0.2m. 0.8m of space between sink and hob should be sufficient for food prep Edited December 28, 2009 by ossify Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey M 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) Yes that is what I am looking at as well. But is your wood glossy? Someone mentioned before that matt wood and glossy white not nice? Morning Annjoy. I think I mentioned before matt wood + glossy might not be nice. The main reason is our kitchens are generally quite small. Space is the main factor here. U might not be able to achieve the level of constrast between both materials. Furthermore, u also need to achieve the right balance/mixture between both materials, how much glossy and how much non-matt. Too much or too little will kill the look. Asethetic wise, I really believe any design type can be outstanding and different. Know you are going for resort theme. I think the below designs might suit u, a gd mixture of both I feel: Or maybe a bit more woody? Edited December 29, 2009 by Mickey M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annjoy 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 Morning Annjoy. I think I mentioned before matt wood + glossy might not be nice. The main reason is our kitchens are generally quite small. Space is the main factor here. U might not be able to achieve the level of constrast between both materials. Furthermore, u also need to achieve the right balance/mixture between both materials, how much glossy and how much non-matt. Too much or too little will kill the look. Asethetic wise, I really believe any design type can be outstanding and different. Know you are going for resort theme. I think the below designs might suit u, a gd mixture of both I feel: Or maybe a bit more woody? Hi Mickey thanks for this! The middle one is really nice! So much white and then there's the accent of wood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annjoy 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) Anyway guys I got unfortunate news. I shall hold back some info for the moment but roughly, I'm screwed. I paid 50% of the renovation amount (10% deposit, 40% payable upon hacking) when the ID didn't give me a schedule of works. You can imagine what's happening now. The work started and I still didn't have a schedule till yesterday (one week after renovation begun). The ID said he doesn't know when the tiler will start and when the tiler will be done. He said its our fault we want the best tiler in town and the best tiler cannot be rushed if not he won't want to do work for my ID in future. He said he will let me know at a later date. That's why 3 weeks. There has been no work done for 3-4 working days already. I still have to move out by the 15th of Jan. And according to the schedule, it seems I can only move in (carpentry not up yet) by end Jan and even this date, ID cannot promise. *sigh Gosh, I am so depressed now. Edited December 29, 2009 by annjoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annjoy 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 the fridge i am getting is 60cm wide, as my kitchen is small. do you really need 90cm for fridge? big family of 6? if you allocate 0.7m, then keep it at 0.7m, not 0.9m. extra space looks weird go fridge shopping to decide what width you want to have. fridge/sink/hob/chute is a better plan make sure the allowance between hob and chute of 0.2m is not too tight, make sure that the rubbish chute can open and you can throw full bags of rubbish in. i think this may be a problem for 0.2m. if you want to increase to 0.3m, you can decrease distance between fridge and hob to 0.3m or 0.2m. 0.8m of space between sink and hob should be sufficient for food prep Hi Ossify, Thank you! Ok I feel better about this. What fridge you buy? The one I bought is 0.7m but need to give it space all around isn't it? That's why I put 0.9m.... Is there a standard fridge width? Wah lau if the fridge i buy spoil, then the model no longer selling, and there is no standard size, ain't I screwed?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 Anyway guys I got unfortunate news. I shall hold back some info for the moment but roughly, I'm screwed. I paid 50% of the renovation amount (10% deposit, 40% payable upon hacking) when the ID didn't give me a schedule of works. You can imagine what's happening now. The work started and I still didn't have a schedule till yesterday (one week after renovation begun). The ID said he doesn't know when the tiler will start and when the tiler will be done. He said its our fault we want the best tiler in town and the best tiler cannot be rushed if not he won't want to do work for my ID in future. He said he will let me know at a later date. That's why 3 weeks. There has been no work done for 3-4 working days already. I still have to move out by the 15th of Jan. And according to the schedule, it seems I can only move in (carpentry not up yet) by end Jan and even this date, ID cannot promise. *sigh Gosh, I am so depressed now. this is exactly one of the reason why i didn't want to get an ID. and there's no such thing as a "best tiler in town". if you are able to subcon out the tiling works (ie. take out tiling from the contract), pm me for tiling contact. but most likely they won't let you take out tiling... cos they can chop big carrot with tiling. personally, i think they need 3 weeks to secure the cheapest tiler Hi Ossify, Thank you! Ok I feel better about this. What fridge you buy? The one I bought is 0.7m but need to give it space all around isn't it? That's why I put 0.9m.... Is there a standard fridge width? Wah lau if the fridge i buy spoil, then the model no longer selling, and there is no standard size, ain't I screwed?? most welcome. i haven't bought a fridge yet, but i am eyeing this one at $1000 Hitachi R-SF37SWPS 4-Door Solfege with A.I. Inverter Compressor & Nano Titanium Technology. Gross Capacity 438Litres 590W x 1798H x 615D I allocated 66cm for 59cm required. 3.5cm on both sides allowance should be sufficient. you are giving 10cm allowance, which seems rather big, imho. maybe you can ask around what's the optimal allowance according to http://www.thathomesite.com/forums/load/ki...24128413.html?6 1cm is more than enough but it really depends on how the fridge opens. check how much allowance you need by opening the door and measuring the swing, check the instruction manual of the fridge to see how much minimum space allowance is recommended by the manufacturer. ANOTHER IMPT THING! i noticed your fridge is on the left! most fridges open on the left! so it would be better for you to have a fridge that opens on the right since your food prep is on the right. my fridge is on the left too so i immediately ruled out all fridges that opens on the left (most of them). you think about it and try it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJREDDEVIL 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 Anyway guys I got unfortunate news. I shall hold back some info for the moment but roughly, I'm screwed. I paid 50% of the renovation amount (10% deposit, 40% payable upon hacking) when the ID didn't give me a schedule of works. You can imagine what's happening now. The work started and I still didn't have a schedule till yesterday (one week after renovation begun). The ID said he doesn't know when the tiler will start and when the tiler will be done. He said its our fault we want the best tiler in town and the best tiler cannot be rushed if not he won't want to do work for my ID in future. He said he will let me know at a later date. That's why 3 weeks. There has been no work done for 3-4 working days already. I still have to move out by the 15th of Jan. And according to the schedule, it seems I can only move in (carpentry not up yet) by end Jan and even this date, ID cannot promise. *sigh Gosh, I am so depressed now. Hey annjoy, Your reno plan looking smooth & great huh! Agrees with what ossify said......ther are no such things as waiting for the best tiler....dun be fooled by the ID....me too never belives ID.....that why I hv always done my own homework, do my own coordination by getting contractor(s) to do the job....and call my own shots.... Caution, you can push the ID on the job, but never push them for a quick completion...it will dissapoints you on their quality level...... Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
annjoy 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 Hey annjoy, Your reno plan looking smooth & great huh! Agrees with what ossify said......ther are no such things as waiting for the best tiler....dun be fooled by the ID....me too never belives ID.....that why I hv always done my own homework, do my own coordination by getting contractor(s) to do the job....and call my own shots.... Caution, you can push the ID on the job, but never push them for a quick completion...it will dissapoints you on their quality level...... Cheers! Ya... I agree. I got something in mind now which I will not publish here first... Going to give it one week and see what happens. My BF argued with the ID already. So..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
