ossify 1 Report post Posted December 29, 2009 ossify bro, how much does it cost u to plaster ur ceiling? living room ceiling takes about 1 day, powder costs $9. so it costs $109? but in between applications, the worker does other things while waiting for it to dry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coffee_o 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Wah bro looking good, very fast and efficient too btw do you have to be there all the time to jaga the workers ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilithfiend 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 living room ceiling takes about 1 day, powder costs $9. so it costs $109? but in between applications, the worker does other things while waiting for it to dry. hi ossify, i'm thinking of going down the same path you're on when it's my turn to renovate. just want to know: do you closely supervise the workers (i.e. are you there the whole time they work?) or do you just check in at the end of the day? And how do they know what needs to be done - do you have to instruct them yourself or does their boss do that? btw, your blog is a huge source of inspiration and ideas and is now part of my morning "kopi" lol. Hope to learn alot from here and from you, thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilithfiend 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Wah bro looking good, very fast and efficient too btw do you have to be there all the time to jaga the workers ? hey, we asked the same question! haha.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Wah bro looking good, very fast and efficient too btw do you have to be there all the time to jaga the workers ? no need. just go at the end of each day to see the progress. if necessary, go down during lunch time to discuss various issues you want to raise like "i don't want this tiled wall to remain anymore, please grind, screed and plaster smooth" or "my aircon piping needs to go through here, please make a channel for it" hi ossify, i'm thinking of going down the same path you're on when it's my turn to renovate. just want to know: do you closely supervise the workers (i.e. are you there the whole time they work?) or do you just check in at the end of the day? And how do they know what needs to be done - do you have to instruct them yourself or does their boss do that? btw, your blog is a huge source of inspiration and ideas and is now part of my morning "kopi" lol. Hope to learn alot from here and from you, thanks! i just let them work and check at end of day. they know what needs to be done because they're professionals. please don't get people who do not know how to do reno, it's dangerous and a waste of money. but of course you have to tell them what you want and if anything looks different from your expectations, feedback immediately for rectification. cement takes a few days to dry so the earlier you tell them, the easier it is to rectify. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coffee_o 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 hey, we asked the same question! haha.. Hahaha yes cos i think that the main concern bah as i believe most of us will not have the time to be there whole day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coffee_o 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 no need. just go at the end of each day to see the progress. if necessary, go down during lunch time to discuss various issues you want to raise like "i don't want this tiled wall to remain anymore, please grind, screed and plaster smooth" or "my aircon piping needs to go through here, please make a channel for it" i just let them work and check at end of day. they know what needs to be done because they're professionals. please don't get people who do not know how to do reno, it's dangerous and a waste of money. but of course you have to tell them what you want and if anything looks different from your expectations, feedback immediately for rectification. cement takes a few days to dry so the earlier you tell them, the easier it is to rectify. Oh thanks bro for the explanation but sometimes we will nvr know if they know how to reno or not till they started doing so i guess it's more or less heng or suay also leh and yes i fully agree that better to rectify problem as early as possible to prevent possible delays due to rectifications Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Also got a electrical/plumber near my house to quote me for my electrical/plumbing works. Was informed by first electrician that materials would cost about $1000. Wow. Maybe I should go with the 2nd quote of $2100 then. The electrical/plumber near my house quoted me $2820 for my electrical and $1100 for my plumbing works The $2100 for electrical and $900 for plumbing is by far the cheapest (cheap and recommended) so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lilithfiend 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 i just let them work and check at end of day. they know what needs to be done because they're professionals. please don't get people who do not know how to do reno, it's dangerous and a waste of money. but of course you have to tell them what you want and if anything looks different from your expectations, feedback immediately for rectification. cement takes a few days to dry so the earlier you tell them, the easier it is to rectify. i see..how do you communicate what you want from them? do you draw it out with dimensions and all? The electrical/plumber near my house quoted me $2820 for my electrical and $1100 for my plumbing works The $2100 for electrical and $900 for plumbing is by far the cheapest (cheap and recommended) so far. wowee, 2100 for electrical sounds a bit pricey..is that cos you have so many fans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 i see..how do you communicate what you want from them? do you draw it out with dimensions and all? i just print out my space planning with dimensions, then we go on site, do measurements, decide on dimensions there and then. i go everyday to check what's done, any issues i will feedback and rectification will be done the day after. as my 3rm is very small, space planning is extremely important so it has to be detailed. initially wanted 80cm sink in toilet but in the end realised that i can only fit 60cm sink otherwise my kitchen will not have enough space. wowee, 2100 for electrical sounds a bit pricey..is that cos you have so many fans? seems cheapest so far for 9 lights, 5 ceiling fan, 1 db box, 1 scv, 2 internet rj45, 2 phone rj22, 1 aircon 15A, 6 double socket 13A, 1 3-gang, 3 2-gang, 2 1-gang, 2 heater. The 1 3-gang, 1 2-gang, 1 heater switch, and 1 double socket 13A will be concealed in cabinet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 just want to update on my electrical/plumbing. confirmed the price at $2900 for electrical + plumbing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Day 16 3 men came today, removed window grills, cement screeding of leftover tiled walls Overview of the house at end of day (window grills are down) Cement screeded tiles behind window grills Common toilet floor tested for drainage MBR's plastering done MBR's door (very nice ) Total cost for the day's work: $300 Hacking 50ft walls and clearing of debris: $1000 Accumulated cost for labour: $3400 (including clearing of debris) Accumulated cost for raw materials: $1338.5 Total reno bill as of now: $5738.5 bought paint today, to be transported to the house for painting over the weekend, in preparation of monday's laying of aircon trunking. need to buy tiles tomorrow so that they can start tiling on Sat/Sun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJREDDEVIL 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Day 16 3 men came today, removed window grills, cement screeding of leftover tiled walls Total cost for the day's work: $300 Hacking 50ft walls and clearing of debris: $1000 Accumulated cost for labour: $3400 (including clearing of debris) Accumulated cost for raw materials: $1338.5 Total reno bill as of now: $5738.5 bought paint today, to be transported to the house for painting over the weekend, in preparation of monday's laying of aircon trunking. need to buy tiles tomorrow so that they can start tiling on Sat/Sun. Hi ossify bro... your reno progress looking well and smooth ya ! ...... ........Must really "kudos" to your DIY style.....all those IDs & contractors "tan boh chiat lieow"( cannot earn $$ alreli)..... ....hahahhaha Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey M 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Day 16 3 men came today, removed window grills, cement screeding of leftover tiled walls Total cost for the day's work: $300 Hacking 50ft walls and clearing of debris: $1000 Accumulated cost for labour: $3400 (including clearing of debris) Accumulated cost for raw materials: $1338.5 Total reno bill as of now: $5738.5 bought paint today, to be transported to the house for painting over the weekend, in preparation of monday's laying of aircon trunking. need to buy tiles tomorrow so that they can start tiling on Sat/Sun. Ossify bro, how much do u intend to spend on the reno work btw? What is the target which u want to achieve? Less than $10k? Btw, how do u pay the workers? By cash everyday? And Happy New Yr! Edited December 31, 2009 by Mickey M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ossify 1 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) Day 17 3 men came today, moved my furniture to mbr since it's ready, scrap off paint of bedroom 2, plaster kitchen ceiling Overview of house at noon Scrapping of paint of bedroom 2 (now converted to merge with living room) Furniture moved to MBR Kitchen ceiling plastered Plastering powder (aka cornice adhesive $10 per bag) Total cost for the day's work: $300 Hacking 50ft walls and clearing of debris: $1000 Accumulated cost for labour: $3700 (including clearing of debris) Accumulated cost for raw materials: $2340.21 Total reno bill as of now: $7040.21 bought tiles, 4 colours of pvc rounded corner strips and 4 colours of grout today from Hafary, will be delivered on Sat PM. Costs me $1001.71 in total after 5% discount. Think I can't get much discount as my quantity is low. A bit disappointed. Ossify bro, how much do u intend to spend on the reno work btw? What is the target which u want to achieve? Less than $10k? Btw, how do u pay the workers? By cash everyday? And Happy New Yr! I intend to spend as little as possible while having good standard of work No target. I pay every week, as agreed prior to starting of this project. Edited December 31, 2009 by ossify Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
