ivy 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 ehhhhhhhh seems like a good deal leh!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkpetter 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 ahh too bad about that wood tile..... seems like tiling work all ready to start today! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrspiglet 2 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 i almost bought the package too if i had not buy my kitchen sink tap already. In the end still bought the hob/hood from Ah soon's contact. Take note of the cast iron ok? cos mine 1 pc got the coating problem, still pending the technician to chge for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smallboy 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 Today MC so went to 'look-see-look-see' again with wifey.......... We bought drinks up for the tiles 'master' and his disciples. He is quite a nice guy......... and since my wifey speaks Cantonese.......... this guy can communicates with her............ they friend friend already........... somemore, we change our mind about the tiles......... ie... we dont want to mix 2 tiles in 1 wall of the toilet........... thank God we went in time and tell him............ his guys about to tile already........ "Phew"....... I must say work is really fast......... they cement and tiling toilets already. That tile 'master' walk thru the kitchen measurements with my wifey........... cos he is building the base.......... thank God wifey memorize her dream kitchen at the back of her hand.......... straight away can iron out some rough corner and how to hide pipes and work around it.......... Ah soon also very hands on....... he came when we left.......... saw him scolding people into his handphone......... quite a funny sight cos he is talking to the grass patch on his handphone.......... like those 'guru' preaching away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrspiglet 2 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) I love my tilers too, think they r very pro people. Did wrong groutings colors for me, ask them to chge and still no black face! Must tell them the exact color of groutings u want, else by default they just do white! i hope the person on the other end of the phone isnt the carpenter. Apparently the carpenter boss was at my house AGAIN this evening to fix my MBR tv console, said ah soon scolded him again. Edited April 3, 2009 by mrspiglet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smallboy 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 I love my tilers too, think they r very pro people. Did wrong groutings colors for me, ask them to chge and still no black face! Must tell them the exact color of groutings u want, else by default they just do white! i hope the person on the other end of the phone isnt the carpenter. Apparently the carpenter boss was at my house AGAIN this evening to fix my MBR tv console, said ah soon scolded him again. hahaha... dont see Mr Soon always nice nice and smiling.... when he scold people, he can be fierce xia.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkpetter 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 I also love the tilers... they are quite patient people and don't grumble much. Hope you're feeling better smallboy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ken_ee5775 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 By the way, how come your contractor only show 2D? How come not in 3D? It is bcos of this his price cheaper? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivy 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 ken uncle ah soon can't even read english let alone use computer, so how to have 3D drawings?? haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ken_ee5775 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Hmmm....a lot of id out there provide 3D but they normally don't do it their own...either the id firm have their own internal drawer or they will source outside. Market price for one 3D view about $150 + 1 time changes...subsequent changes will be $10 per time. it is rather risky if there is no 3D view. Edited April 3, 2009 by ken_ee5775 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smallboy 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Hmmm....a lot of id out there provide 3D but they normally don't do it their own...either the id firm have their own internal drawer or they will source outside. Market price for one 3D view about $150 + 1 time changes...subsequent changes will be $10 per time. it is rather risky if there is no 3D view. Actually, it depends whether there is significant work needs to be done. If the scope is small, the risk is small, then probably 3D is no necessary. Although market rate is $150, any contractor will mark up. Heard other ID marked up to $500 in other topics in this forum. In my opinion, typical HDB flat reno will not need ID or 3D drawing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkpetter 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 For a good price... it's also nice to visualise things yourself and do some hands-on. Anyway we come up with the designs ourselves and Ah Soon just carries them out, according to what we want. AND in the case of my house there was a slight flaw in our kitchen thanks to our own design and he still helped us change our cabinet doors when we explained that we couldn't have it that way. Wasn't his fault at all but he changed it for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivy 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 To add on, in my own opinion, if you were to compare the various 3Ds provided by the different IDs, they look more or less the same and alot of duplication. I've read in one of the thread in this forum that 2 owners end up with similar 3Ds, can't remember the name of the thread though. Thus if owner already have rough ideas, done research and have pictures of what they have in mind, it is pretty safe to do without 3D. of course as u highlighted, there is always some risk that what u expected might be different from the outcome. For those using uncle ah soon, I believe we are all prepared to go without the 3Ds and save the sum of money to do other works. Quite a number of ah soon's customers are willing to open house to let others view his workmanship. Thus that is the confidence level that they have in him. I've viewed 3 units done by him, the latest was a unit in Eunos which I visited last night. I won't say workmanship is the best, but it is good enough for me at the price that he quoted. Hope we did help you address your concern Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smallboy 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 (edited) Agreed with Ivy. I've been to three open houses as well. The willingness of others to allow us to view their house also reflect their confidence in Ah Soon. To me, what is important in a contractor is reliable, good workmanship and negotiable... We have also read about many other forumers negative feedback from IDs. The price difference between Ah Soon and ID is also quite substantial, imagine the few IDs initial quotation to me are all above 50k and Ah Soon quote is below 40k with more stuff. To correct myself, Ah Soon does give 3D "hand drawn" drawing.... See sample. Edited April 4, 2009 by Smallboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smallboy 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 ken uncle ah soon can't even read english let alone use computer, so how to have 3D drawings?? haha Wah Ivy, you still reading Renotalk at the 1AM!!! Very ON hor !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
