Appreciate Forumers Comment On Whether The Quotation I Got Is Ok. Tia

[Autofocus 0]

Hi all,

I recently bought an EM that is 150 sqm and will be doing extensive renovation. We bought this place because of the location and are really having a hard time balancing our finances. Appreciate your advice on whether the quotation I receive on the work I am doing is reasonable.

This ID company is more or less shortlisted but I am still waiting for other quotations to come in. It will be most helpful if you are able to tell me which sections might be over-quoted. Thanks in advance!

General Works:

Supply labour and material to:

1) Hack foyer, dining, utility and living room floor tiles - 500

2) Hack kitchen floor and wall tiles - 500

3) Hack common toilet floor and wall tiles - 200

4) Hack common toilet door frame and dismantle door - FOC

5) Hack balcony floor and wall tiles - 300

6) Hack glass sliding door and track at balcony - 100

7) Hack utility door frame and dismantle door - FOC

8) Hack staircase railing and finishes - 300

9) Hack 3 bedroom and passageway floor tiles - 500

10) Hack door frame and door at 3 bedrooms - FOC

11) Hack common and master bedroom floor and wall tiles - 700

12) Hack bedrooms wardrobe - 300

13) Hack cornices at lower and upper floor - 450

14) Hack wall between kitchen and dining area - 200

15) Hack wall between bedroom 2 and bedroom 3 - 200

16) Hack wall between bedroom 3 and common bathroom - 250

17) Hack kitchen cabinet and built-in cabinet - 300

18) Chemical washing and general cleaning work after renovation work - FOC

Masonry work:

Supply labour and material to:

1) Lay 600mmx600mm matt homogenous floor tiles at foyer, dining, utility and living room - 4650

2) Lay 600mmx600mm matt homogenous floor tiles at kitchen - 960

3) Construct cement base for kitchen cabinet and washing machine - 400

4) Lay 300mmx600mm matt wall tiles between top and bottom cabinet - 500

5) Cement screed other kitchen wall for painting finish - 500

6) Construct full ht hollow block wall at washing machine and island breakfast table - 500

7) Lay wall tiles at island solid table - 650

8) Lay floor tiles and full ht wall tiles at common toilet - 1900

9) Lay 300mmx600mm matt homogenous floor tile at balcony - 850

10) Cement screed balcony wall after hacking of wall tiles - 200

11) Cement screed staircase treads and risers - 800

12) Cement screed 3 bedrooms and passageway flooring - 500

13) Construct hollow block wall to seal up walk-in wardrobe - 680

14) Construct hollow block wall to one side of shower area at master bedroom - 500

15) Lay floor tiles and full ht wall tiles at master bathroom - 2200

16) Lay floor tiles and full ht wall tiles common bathroom - 2300

17) Lay laminate flooring at 3 bedroom and passageway - 2500

18) Supply and install stainless steel refute chute cover - 260

19) Water-proofing at toilets - FOC

Fibrous Work:

Supply labour and material to:

1) Plaster existing rockstone wall and ceiling - 2850

2) Construct L-box at island solid top table - 120

3) Construct full ht gypsum board partition beside living room storage cabinet - 120

4) Construct false ceiling at partial living room - 600

5) Construct full ht gypsum board partition at bedroom 2 walk-in wardrobe - 400

6) Construct false ceiling at part of master bedroom - 600

7) Seal up opening above door at utility and common toilet - 200

8) Seal up window opening above door at utility - 100

Painting work:

Supply labour and material to:

1) Paint whole house interior wall and ceiling with ICI or Nippon paint - 1780

Carpentry Work:

Supply labour and material to:

UTILITY

1) Design and fabricate full ht shoe cabinet in laminate finish - 1540

KITCHEN

1) Design and fabricate L-shaped top and bottom cabinet in laminate finish - 3050

2) Install L-shaped solid surface worktop - 1200

3) Design and fabricate solid top island table in laminate finish - 1100

DINING

1) Design and fabricate feature wall with mirror and in laminate finish - 1600

LIVING

1) Design and fabricate half ht TV feature wall with suspended ledge - 2700

2) Design and fabricate storage cabinet in laminate finish - 1920

3) Design and fabricate platform at balcony with laminate finish - FOC

MASTER BEDROOM

1) Design and fabricate L-shaped full ht walk-in wardrobe in laminate finish - 2560

2) Design and fabricate vanity cabinet with solid surface top and frameless mirror - 1150

3) Design and fabricate timber sliding door with full mirror on one side at walk-in wardrobe 850

4) Design and fabricate TV feature wall with ledge in laminate finish - 1500

5) Design and fabricate bed frame and headboard - 1140

6) Design and fabricate bedside table with drawers and corner full ht cabinet in laminate finish - 1680

Door and Glass Works:

Supply labour and material to:

1) Install aluminium framed acrylic bi-fold door at common toilet - 220

2) Install clear tempered glass partition at extended master bedroom (shower screen) - 1500

3) Install clear tempered glass sliding door at master bedroom - 800

4) Install clear tempered glass sliding door at bedroom 2 on upper floor - 480

5) Install clear tempered glass swing door at common bathroom - 220

6) Install timber sliding door at utility - 580

Window Works:

Supply labour and material to:

1) Install aluminium framed glass sliding window at kitchen - 390

2) Install aluminium framed glass top hung window at common bathroom - 110

3) Install aluminium framed glass sliding window at dining - 550

4) Install aluminium framed glass sliding window at balcony - 650

5) Install aluminium framed glass sliding window at extended master bedroom - 980

6) Install aluminium framed glass sliding window at bedroom 2 - 650

7) Install aluminium framed glass top hung window at common and master bedroom - 220

Plumbing Works:

Supply labour and material to:

1) Install cold water piping for whole unit - 840

2) Install hot water point for 2 bathroom shower and wash basin - 400

3) Install 3 nos. WC - 270

4) Install shower mixer, basin and mixer at common and master bathroom - 300

5) Install kitchen sink and connection of outlet - 140

6) Install washing machine inlet and outlet - 100

7) Install 1 no. of storage water heater - 100

Metal Works:

Supply labour and material to:

1) Install mild steel staircase railing in spray paint finish - 1100

Electrical Works:

Supply labour and material to:

1) Install new distribution board (DB) c/w circuit breaker - 300

2) Install new SCV points (4 nos.) - 380

3) Install single socket 13 A (2 nos.) - 90

4) Install double socket 13 A (18 nos.) - 990

5) Install 15 A heater point (1 no) - 95

6) Install 15 A air-con point (1 no) - 120

7) Install lighting point (23 nos.) - 805

8) Install 2-way lighting switch (4 nos.) - 220

9) Install telephone point (4 nos.) - 200

10) Install hob/hood point (1 no) - 60

11) Install door bell point (1 no) - 40

12) Install earth bonding point (1 nos) - 60

13) Install new ceiling mounted and PLC lights (25 nos) - 250

14) Install pendant light (2 nos.) - 100

Total: $68,980 (company to throw in 3-1 aircon after neg)

Thanks!

Edited November 13, 2008 by Autofocus

[de_Pierre 0]

Erm, consider resonable liao... Only thing cant compare is the carpentry works as no dimension is given...

[alan26 2]

I didn't check it thoroughly yet, just doing some quick browse. I have some doubt here. Maybe u could check out with your ID.

Question1:

General Works:

How come there is NO supply labour and material to dismantling the

existing WC, basin,toilet accessory..etc all that.

Question2:

Masonry work: After hacking the flooring, there is bound to have uneven surface. How come they don't Supply labour & materials to patch up affected area after hacking.

Question3:

Masonry work: How come they only water proof your toilet and not your kitchen leh.

Question4:

You don't intend to plaster the whole house rite.

[Autofocus 0]

Hi alan26,

Thanks for looking thru it. Replied in red

Question1:

General Works:

How come there is NO supply labour and material to dismantling the

existing WC, basin,toilet accessory..etc all that.

(included - in the General Works when I met up with the co. to discuss. Will ask the item to be included into the quote)

Question2:

Masonry work: After hacking the flooring, there is bound to have uneven surface. How come they don't Supply labour & materials to patch up affected area after hacking.

(They did include but I did not list it here cos in the quote its FOC)

Question3:

Masonry work: How come they only water proof your toilet and not your kitchen leh.

(Will check on this. Thanks)

Question4:

You don't intend to plaster the whole house rite.

(I need to. Cos the whole house currently in rodstone. Under Fibrous work: item 1)

Thanks.

Edited November 14, 2008 by Autofocus

[alan26 2]

Q1:

Masonry work: After hacking the flooring, there is bound to have uneven surface. How come they don't Supply labour & materials to patch up affected area after hacking.

(They did include but I did not list it here cos in the quote its FOC)

Even it is FOC also must include, the trick they use is verbally. When renovating time comes, they would tell you it's not in the quotation..then u lan lan gotta top up $$

Q2:

18) Supply and install stainless steel refute chute cover - $260

$190 only mah, they over quote u liao. sometimes can even bargain to $180.

Q3:

17) Lay laminate flooring at 3 bedroom and passageway - $2500

Better check with them what brand they using. Sometimes they give you a cheapo brand.

Q4:Supply labour and material to:

1) Install cold water piping for whole unit - 840

How abt dismantling the existing whole hse copper piping?

[Autofocus 0]

Hi alan26

So other then the refute chute cover, laminate brand and some labour i need to clarify, i guess the quote is reasonable?

TIA

[alan26 2]

Hi alan26

So other then the refute chute cover, laminate brand and some labour i need to clarify, i guess the quote is reasonable?

TIA

hmm.. By the way how much did they charge you on the permit fee, Haulage fee and debris fee.

I can't pass my judgement without knowing they workmanship, attitude and honesty.

All i can say is, Ask your some question:

"Is the price they quote within your budget?"

"If yes, Are you comfortable with the price they quote you?"

"If yes, Do you feel comfortable with that ID? (In term of communication)"

"If no,Compare quotation of different ID and contractor"

I dun want to badmouth any ID company, just that....there's too many loophole for them to play around with.One thing for sure. Your Quotation have not been finalise. Just check your quotation item carefully.

[porkypig 0]

Hi,

What abt lighting point @ Vanity top?

PE Fee for hacking work??

Price psf for tiles so you know what range you can chose...

Looking @ the $2.5K for laminates, shld be looking @ Supreme or kronotex..

What abt painting for door frames, lacquer for doors, pipes and etc if any?? Shld state clearly..

Every little details should be stated so that you wouldn't get cheated..

Probably you can get a quote from windows installers to check are you being rip apart?

Because most ID will also approach them and sub the job to them..

Do note that even if you managed to bargain for any items before you signed on the dotted line, don't be too happy, any additional items you add on during reno work, they will rip you back..

[Autofocus 0]

Hi alan26 , porkypig,

Your comments have been very helpful. I will definitely tread more carefully and look more into the details of each portion.

I am fine with the ID but its just that the quote is way out of my budget.

[pinkpetter 0]

EH I think the HACKING a lot of money le!!

I hack about 110 sqm including kitchen floor + kitchen cabinets is about 1900-2500.... yours is $4400.... I will jump at such price le.

My cement screed wall for paint finish is virtually free.

Carpentry cannot comment since no dimensions given. but if it's way above your budget I suggest you take out the carpentry like shoe cabinet all that. Next time then do. Some things can slowly do ba.

[alan26 2]

Hi autofocus, If you are out of budget like me. you can try prioritize the item that are impt and things that are less impt.

For example window grilles ,TV feature wall etc. not so impt one dun do.

If you need i can pass you my id contact. PM or email me if u need my id contact.

[pinkpetter 0]

ya. 68k is a lot of money.. reno dun really count that much in valuation of flat... mmm

Good luck ok? must work within budget.

[alan26 2]

ya. 68k is a lot of money.. reno dun really count that much in valuation of flat... mmm

Good luck ok? must work within budget.

Ya i agree with pinkpetter. Have u forgotten that there are other cost to add in?

I have no right to say u autofocus coz i also forgot to add in the cost until my id reminded me.

Sample of List of item below:

Furniture:

1) Chair

2) Sofa Set

3) Coffee Table

4) Mattress

5) Dining Table + chair

Electrical:

1) Cooker & Hob

2) Fridge

3) Washing Machine

4) Microwave oven or oven

5) All the lighting (downlight..somemore u got 23 nos of lighting point)

6) Instant water heater or storage heater

7) LCD TV

8) DVD player

9) Sound system

10) Wall Fan (maybe lah )

Plumbering:

1) 2 toilet bowl

2) 2 wash basin

3) 1 kitchen sink

4) ?? Taps

5) 7 set toilet accessory (towel hanger, toilet paper holder)

Misc: (although small $$ but also $$ leh)

1) Broom

2) Mop

3) Dustpan

4) Dustbin

5) Bowl , Plate , Cups, Pot , Pan, Wok

6) Detegent (Floor, Dish,Clothes)

7) Pails

OK i stop my list here, wait u say i lor soh.

[pinkpetter 0]

AND one last thing... the costs of packing and moving...

Unless you own a lorry and have many friends to help.. moving will also cost quite a bit.

[happyfamily66 0]

Hi All,

I joined this forum recently, actually i have just finish my reno. I suppose the quote was quite high there. My mansionette reno cause about 40k plus with all the hacking. Maybe its better you take some time and compare prices. Relaz and Enjoy the midst of getting a reno. Cheers