hihihi 0 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 Hi, Does anyone seen this type of rocker switch before? Perhaps no need so designer-like. Website I found are mostly 3 gang from Clipsal, MK and Legrand. Need a 4 gang one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h4happy 1 Report post Posted May 19, 2008 Hi HIHIHI...are you refering to this kind? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hihihi 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 Hi H4Happy, Thanks for the wonderful picture, that is what I am looking for. So it actually exists! I will go hardware shops to look for it then. Brand is "T&J" (sounds like Tom & Jerry)... hehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawry 3 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 H4Happy, how come your switches are so flat and flushed with the surface? Was it fixed onto a hollow board? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hihihi 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 H4Happy, how come your switches are so flat and flushed with the surface? Was it fixed onto a hollow board? eh, I'm not an expert, but I see my new flat are all like that flushed, for conceal wiring, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
h4happy 1 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 Yes, when you dig out, it is hollow and all the wire are conceal inside the hole with a kind of metal or plastic casting...sorry I am not an expert either..happened to see my electrician do the installing. eh, I'm not an expert, but I see my new flat are all like that flushed, for conceal wiring, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hihihi 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) Ok found some info: When u dig open the switch, the wall is actually got a space, and u will actually see this box inside the wall, with some wires. this is the conceal wiring point. Then u fix the wires to the switch's face-plate, which will then either click-in or screw into the box (see the holes for the screws from the picture), covering the hole. There u will have a flushed switch face-plate. Of coz there are other design as well... nicer = more expensive = probably more flushed. Edited May 20, 2008 by hihihi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donut88 1 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 Hi, Does anyone seen this type of rocker switch before? Perhaps no need so designer-like. Website I found are mostly 3 gang from Clipsal, MK and Legrand. Need a 4 gang one. Buy Legrand one.... they got 4 gang rocker, exactly the same as the pic posted by the 'h4happy'. Get it from Choo Chiang. Confirm got sell. and its cheap!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawry 3 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 Ok found some info: When u dig open the switch, the wall is actually got a space, and u will actually see this box inside the wall, with some wires. this is the conceal wiring point. Then u fix the wires to the switch's face-plate, which will then either click-in or screw into the box (see the holes for the screws from the picture), covering the hole. There u will have a flushed switch face-plate. Of coz there are other design as well... nicer = more expensive = probably more flushed. I've been quite upset about my renovation. (Yes, I want to start a blog to say my piece soon) Learning from friends who came over for housewarming, reading from this forum is making it worse. My renovation was completed a few months ago, Is concealed wiring something extra that you have to pay for? I find it quite ridiculous that I paid few hundreds for cornices on the ceilings and yet I see wire casings on the wall leading to the switches, which is anything but FLAT ... I should really start a blog to let people know what they can be expecting from a renovation, what are the options, what is the standard, what's nice, what's not, what's bad ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NiVleK 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 I've been quite upset about my renovation. (Yes, I want to start a blog to say my piece soon) Learning from friends who came over for housewarming, reading from this forum is making it worse. My renovation was completed a few months ago, Is concealed wiring something extra that you have to pay for? I find it quite ridiculous that I paid few hundreds for cornices on the ceilings and yet I see wire casings on the wall leading to the switches, which is anything but FLAT ... I should really start a blog to let people know what they can be expecting from a renovation, what are the options, what is the standard, what's nice, what's not, what's bad ... I personally think that there is nothing we can do about that as we are not allowed to drill holes on the walls to conceal the wiring and the points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donut88 1 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 I've been quite upset about my renovation. (Yes, I want to start a blog to say my piece soon) Learning from friends who came over for housewarming, reading from this forum is making it worse. My renovation was completed a few months ago, Is concealed wiring something extra that you have to pay for? I find it quite ridiculous that I paid few hundreds for cornices on the ceilings and yet I see wire casings on the wall leading to the switches, which is anything but FLAT ... I should really start a blog to let people know what they can be expecting from a renovation, what are the options, what is the standard, what's nice, what's not, what's bad ... u cannot have concealed wiring if it never comes with the flat. so dun expect contractors to do miracles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hihihi 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Lawry, Just to clarify. Old style flats all the electrical wires are exposed, meaning that you run your wires by means of trunking (i.e that plastic long squarish pipe), from the distribution box (there's a circuit breaker box usually located behind your main door). Electricians have to connect wires from this box to every corners of your house for lightings, electrical points etc using trunkings. They cannot do conceal. Only new style HDB, dunno which year they started, HDB flats starts to have conceal wiring. Means that HDB built the flats with the wires already conceal into the ceilings and walls from your distribution box. They'll give u a map tell u where the concealed wire goes. (By Right), electrician cannot do new conceal wiring if they need to shift electical points (only HDB can do it).. (By Left), most pple shift and still conceal the wiring. Buy Legrand one.... they got 4 gang rocker, exactly the same as the pic posted by the 'h4happy'. Get it from Choo Chiang. Confirm got sell. and its cheap!!! Do they have coloured ones instead of white? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawry 3 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) u cannot have concealed wiring if it never comes with the flat. so dun expect contractors to do miracles. I personally think that there is nothing we can do about that as we are not allowed to drill holes on the walls to conceal the wiring and the points. Lawry, Just to clarify. Old style flats all the electrical wires are exposed, meaning that you run your wires by means of trunking (i.e that plastic long squarish pipe), from the distribution box (there's a circuit breaker box usually located behind your main door). Electricians have to connect wires from this box to every corners of your house for lightings, electrical points etc using trunkings. They cannot do conceal. Only new style HDB, dunno which year they started, HDB flats starts to have conceal wiring. Means that HDB built the flats with the wires already conceal into the ceilings and walls from your distribution box. They'll give u a map tell u where the concealed wire goes. (By Right), electrician cannot do new conceal wiring if they need to shift electical points (only HDB can do it).. (By Left), most pple shift and still conceal the wiring. I understand that only the new flats come with concealed wires. But I didn't see any exposed wires or wire casing at my friend's 20 year old resale flat, even aircon ducts, trunkings and water piping. They were all intelligently concealed, probably done (by left) by drilling holes in the walls, or (by right), attach another layer of wall to hide the wires and trunkings behind. Whichever it is, I've seen more than 1 resale flat with concealed wiring. Edited May 21, 2008 by lawry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyersummer 1 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Legrand switches: phone point SCV point, 12A point, 1,2,3,4 Gang switches Door Bell from Choo Chiang Ventilation fan - bathroom I bought the lightings on ebay. Self-assembled. This is a 30-piece 40cm Inter-quarilateral (IQ) lamp. You can view on the write-up at this link, http://www.renotalk.com/forum/viewtopic.ph...50&start=60 Price: S$52 for 2 lamp. Bulb you can buy energy-saving type. Preferably use 20W or less if use only for illuminating purpose (e.g reading beside your bed etc) Ikea also sell similar material/type, but don't look nice. Side view from master bedroom lighting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donut88 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2008 I understand that only the new flats come with concealed wires. But I didn't see any exposed wires or wire casing at my friend's 20 year old resale flat, even aircon ducts, trunkings and water piping. They were all intelligently concealed, probably done (by left) by drilling holes in the walls, or (by right), attach another layer of wall to hide the wires and trunkings behind. Whichever it is, I've seen more than 1 resale flat with concealed wiring. old flats still can conceal wirings. this one must depend on the layout of the flat itself, the skills of your electrician/contractor and where are the electrical points. some points happened to be able to draw wires from the other side of wall. so u will only see the sockets and no external casing. some points or air con truckings can be concealed using boards and patch up nicely to blend on the wall. But no matter what, for old flats, sure got some external wires casing you can see somewhere. No way can be 100% all concealed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
