socks 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2008 Hi, would like to find out if anyone has bought stainless steel pull-out basket (for kitchen cabinet) from Po* Jo* in j.berseh? they gave me a rather attractive quotation: Carcase 450mm, basket size (WxDxH): 355mm x 475mm x 140mm - $70 each the sales lady told me the stainless steel is grade 304. as im not sure about such grading, i asked her if it's 18/8 etc, she said yes(?). also, there's a 5yr warranty against rust. so i would like to clarify if anyone knows the so-called grade 304 is indeed 18/8? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applefreak 1 Report post Posted May 1, 2008 yes 304 is 18/8 while 316 is 18/10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keltong 4 Report post Posted May 2, 2008 Hi, would like to find out if anyone has bought stainless steel pull-out basket (for kitchen cabinet) from Po* Jo* in j.berseh? they gave me a rather attractive quotation: Carcase 450mm, basket size (WxDxH): 355mm x 475mm x 140mm - $70 each the sales lady told me the stainless steel is grade 304. as im not sure about such grading, i asked her if it's 18/8 etc, she said yes(?). also, there's a 5yr warranty against rust. so i would like to clarify if anyone knows the so-called grade 304 is indeed 18/8? I just remember I forgot to buy mine! No wonder my contractor never fix for me. Does Poh Joo (I presume is this) have lots of different sizes for the basket? I haven't measure mine yet. Where exactly is the place? Any other places I can go and source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applefreak 1 Report post Posted May 2, 2008 i've seen these baskets at hoe kee, chuan heng, song cho and SSC believe ikea also has them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartFool 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2008 i've seen these baskets at hoe kee, chuan heng, song cho and SSC believe ikea also has them pardon me may i noe what is 18/8 and 18/10 i read that its different grades but can advise whats the difference is quality? and whats the damage? sorry ah i very kiasu cos budget very tight sia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keltong 4 Report post Posted May 2, 2008 i've seen these baskets at hoe kee, chuan heng, song cho and SSC believe ikea also has them Thanks...so lazy to go hunting after moving in and still doing all the unpacking...haha...need to really pull myself up to go and find. pardon me may i noe what is 18/8 and 18/10 i read that its different grades but can advise whats the difference is quality? and whats the damage? sorry ah i very kiasu cos budget very tight sia I understand both are very good stainless steel material but the 18/10 will be more resistant to corrosive compare to 18/8. But normal home usage both should be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applefreak 1 Report post Posted May 2, 2008 the difference is basically the digit behind it stands for the nickel content in the metal higher means it will retain the shine longer got this off a website FAQ 2. What is the difference between 18/8 and 18/10 stainless steel? Answer: The first number is the amount of chromium that is contained in the stainless, i.e., 18 is 18% chromium. The second number is the amount of nickel, i.e., 8 stands for 8% nickel. So 18/8 means that this stainless steel contains 18% chromium and 8% nickel. 18/10 is 18% chromium and 10% nickel. The higher the numbers the more corrosion resistant the material. 18/0 is a misleading designation. Both 18/8 and 18/10 contain nickel and are part of the grade family "300 series" stainless. 18/0 means that there is 18% chromium but zero nickel. When there is no nickel the stainless grade family is the "400 series". 400 series are not as corrosion resistant as the 300 series and are magnetic, where the 300 series are non-magnetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartFool 0 Report post Posted May 2, 2008 thanks Kel and A.F most important question: Any big difference in the cost? Besides the pull out basket, any other stuff necessary for such quality? as far as i noe some of which are the bathroom (to hang towels etc) accessories Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
socks 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2008 i believe the 18/10 will naturally be more expensive. just went ikea tampines yesterday to check out their Grundtal series. apparently i read a previous posting by applefreak (see, i did my homework! ) that she has gotten some of the grundtal products - 18/8, n im surprised by their pricing. though its 18/8, which is comparable to maybe other stainless steel products from places like Son* Cho or Hoe Ke*, it's so much cheaper! though it may not look as sleek, every cent counts when doing reno, which is costing so much nowadays however, it seems like grundtal series do not have many variety of offerings for the kitchen. btw, keltong, poh jo* is at 159 jalan berseh, diagonally opp j.berseh hawker centre. they hv another showroom at 389/391 jalan berseh. they have pull-out baskets in different carcase widths - 400mm, 450mm, 500, 600, 800 & 900! quoted me $70 a pull-out for 450mm carcase. with their 5yrs warranty againt rust, im thinking if it's a good deal cos i thought stainless steel should somewhat guaranteed against rust for the lifetime? - think song ch* or day & day products have lifetime no-rust warranty but they cost a bomb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keltong 4 Report post Posted May 6, 2008 Thanks...now my wife say may not want the basket liao...*sigh* then got big area with no shelf leh, see how it goes, still trying to convince her should get at least 1 else the space wasted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gladyslim 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2008 s/s basket which is made of round rod is normally 304 material those s/s railing u see in most hdb flat is 304, those use at the jetty or boat is mostly 316L both materials also available in finishing like 1B, 2B,BA, hailrine, no. 8 mirror etc and those s/s sheet panelling u see in the lift is etching finishing. different importer, different country of origin - different price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpcc 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 so which country of make is considered a good buy? I went to Guan Chang Electrical (Alexandra village) and they have made in Italy accessories. However, the steel is not too impressive... (some oxidisation) s/s basket which is made of round rod is normally 304 material those s/s railing u see in most hdb flat is 304, those use at the jetty or boat is mostly 316L both materials also available in finishing like 1B, 2B,BA, hailrine, no. 8 mirror etc and those s/s sheet panelling u see in the lift is etching finishing. different importer, different country of origin - different price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gladyslim 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 generally, those Japanese or Italy's quality is better than thailand make. Some hardware shop like Kim Men at AMK do have cheaper range of s/s products but not much choices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donut88 1 Report post Posted June 13, 2008 Hi, would like to find out if anyone has bought stainless steel pull-out basket (for kitchen cabinet) from Po* Jo* in j.berseh? they gave me a rather attractive quotation: Carcase 450mm, basket size (WxDxH): 355mm x 475mm x 140mm - $70 each the sales lady told me the stainless steel is grade 304. as im not sure about such grading, i asked her if it's 18/8 etc, she said yes(?). also, there's a 5yr warranty against rust. so i would like to clarify if anyone knows the so-called grade 304 is indeed 18/8? For s/s stuff, best is to buy from Soo Cho (the chicken brand). Although its expensive, but they give quality and LIFETIME warranty. its better to spend more now, than to spend again later. Imagine now you buy cheap stuff. 4 years later, it breaks down, or rust or whatever. You need to buy another new one and PAY someone to install you again. So you add up the $$, is it worth it to PAY for installation again? Now you buy the best quality, and u wont need to buy again and pay again for installation. For the s/s basket that fits into yr kitchen cabinet, remember that yr cabinet is plywood. to re-install new ones, u need to unscrew the old screw, tat means there will be holes and you cant use back the same holes. you need to screw new holes........ wont it be ugly? And your space allowance in the cabinet will be affected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TYM 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) Get from Song Cho if u can. Feel that Poh Joo SS items are not that lasting. We bought bathroom accessories from them for our common bathroom and can already see rust after 3 months. Our MBR bathroom accessories from Song Cho still look brand new. Really regret not spending that bit more and get all from Song Cho. Edited June 13, 2008 by TYM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites