Built-in oven

[kitchen matters 0]

Thanks KM, your input certainly helps alot.

It was quite a steal at $545 in comparing $1800 for Brandt867 (even knowing how good it is)

I can always upgrade to a better one in a few yrs time

is 56litres consider bad then?

I also have the microwave + grill (link)

what r your views?

Hi berry_surprise,

sorry for the delay ,

56 litres is good enough as in the past the capacity of the ooven is only 51 litres .And with Turbo fan , you may purchase extra racks and do cookies ( Just remember to lower the Temp. for example cook book indicate 180 degree , lower to 160 degree as with Turbo Fan the heat is stronger or you may consider shorten the time .

Remember to pre heat your oven once install as to blow out the smell. ( Turn to Top & Bottom Heat With Fan , 180 degree for 15 minutes. )

As for microwave + grill products , you may grill small portion or heat up food but try to min. useing often .

KM

sorry for the delay

[kitchen matters 0]

Hi KM,

THnks for ur reply.. sory for the late reply, been bz...

Went to electrolux sales but nothing attracts me...

My husband says the electrolux oven's design are such that the front part is sticking out from the cabinet, whereas the other brands like Brandt and Bosch are in line with the cabinet so he dun like Electrolux...

we went to Millenia Harvey Norman thinking of buying either Brandt or Bosch but no sales person ard... so end up didn't buy anything.

Btw, can u adv if rinnai RBO-7MRX and RBO-5CSI is good? coz my relative can get disc for Rinnai...tot that if they are abt $800 (my budget), then I can consider.

Many thnks in advance!

Hi Xianee ;

sorry for the late reply ,

RBO 7 MRX is a 7 cooking program Oven but the retail price is $850 /xx and RBO-5CSI is a 4 cooking program oven retail at $650/xx but for the RBO-5CSI does not come with Turbo Fan as this can distrubute the heat evenly ( for cookies ) And if i not mistaken it only have 3 program as it add the Oven Light into it . Can consider Ariston FB 51.2 IX retail at promotion price $600+++ or even Teka Oven .

As for the RBO-7MRX come with self clean panel , cut off timer , 7 cooking program ( minus the light become 6 ) and turbo fan . If compare theses 2 i say RBO-7MRX still ok

Remember to pre heat the oven once install and always pre heat once a month

sorry for the late reply

KM

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hi KM, any recoomendations for a built-in oven in the range of $600-$800 with turnspit?

Hi biz ;

You may consider :

Electrolux EOB 31002X at $799/xx

Bosch HBN 331E2J at $749/xx

Brandt FE811XS1 at $899/xx

Tenkei TEK 62 IX at $559/xx

But most model now does not come with turnspit as it has Turbo Fan built in . With Turnspit theres pro and con as the food get to turn aand the base of the food will be well bake and grill but cleaning wise may be a headache as it quite sharp. As for Turbo Fan assist , it will distrubute the heat evenly but some ppl do say that the base is not grill or bake at all. But when grill a chicken or meat you may just leave the meat on the rack and the base is expose to the heat

Are you planning for replacement or for new kitchen ? And how many program you prefer ? Colour of oven ?

sorry for the late reply

KM

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i installed Hobz hob and hood on top of my Tecno TM28 built in oven. everything have been working beautifully so far

Hi DPSK ;

greetings

Hows the Oven perforamce ? Do remember to pre heat the oven once a month using the top and bottom heat with Fan at 180 degree and for 15 mins.Which Hobz model you purchase ? Glass or stainless stell ?

KM

[kitchen matters 0]

Dear Kitchen matters,

I hope that you are reading this.

I have tried to send this mail as private mail but your inbox is full.

I seek your expertise urgently.

My budget is between SGD2000 and SGD 2500 and I am looking for an oven, steamer and microwave.

For oven/microwave, i am looking at the selected models from brandt.

Brandt FP867XS1

Brandt FE811XS1

Brandt FC842XS1

Brandy ME 655XG

I will be using the oven to bake cookies , cakes and to grill chicken. Which model will be a better choice?

At the same time, I am looking at the Panasonic Microwave oven SNN-SV30YPQ which allows me to steam/ microwave food.

Which will make a better combination?

Thank you!

Melodyfloss

Hi Melodyfloss ;

sorry for the late reply .

Below are some pointers ;

Brandt FP867XS1 Retail at $1899.00

Multi suction / Auto program / cool Door / Full Glass Door / Turnspit / New Danish Design and Wire Rack / 54 litres / 2 large drip tray ( 45mm& 20mm and 2 safetly grids rack and the cool door and the glass of the oven can be remove / Comes with 9 cooking program and 6 Auto programs

+++ I find this model quite complete as it has all the programs that a person need and for the cleaning is qute easy . GOOD Buy

Brandt FE811XS1 retail at $899.00

Multi Function Oven / Knob control / Temp. recom / Cut off timer / New Danish design / 2 glass door / 6 cooking programs / 1 large tray (20mm) / 2 rack ( for baking of multi rack - cookies / 52 litres

Brandt FC842XS1 Retail at $1399.00

Multi function / Catalytic ( self clean panels = it will absob the oil while grilling and it will min. the cleaning of the inner of the oven . ) / 6 cooking program / Full glass inner door / +++ 45cm drip tray to hold the oil while grilling and you may place some carrots , potatos , onions on it while grilling and all the favour of the oil will drip down . But remember to place an alumnium foil on the tray

Brandy ME 655XG retail at $1599.00

Comi Oven & Microwave Built In / 12 auto program / 40 litres / Elec Spped Deforst .

+++ 2 in 1 is good in space saving and all in one but if you do some grilling and after which you want to defrost , you will need to clean inside first and sometimes the smell will be there . And if one spoilt , the other cant be use as sometimes supplier need to bring back to service . Like wat i suggest that 2 in 1 is good but if possible try to avoid it

+++ All the 3 oven you suggest is from a basic to middle to high end . All got it Pros and Cons . Sometime a basic oven can do wonders ( Just image in the past , those oven comes with 3 program and without turbo fan , but they make the best food )

If you notice that each model is $500 difference between each model ( 3 ovens )

If the price is right , can consider Brandt FE811XS1 as it have all the cooking programs it needed and beside the $$$ difference , you will notice that ithe difference between them are the extra cooking programs ( Which you may not use ) / self clean panels ( some ppls say is good to have but how often you grill ? and is it in large portion ? with self clean panels we also have to clean lastly the higher end model comes with complete features but you may not use all asyou may end up using the basic 3 cooking programs = Tradition pulsed ( top and bottom with Fan cookies chicken ) / Tradtional ( Top and bottom for cakes , meat ) / Grill ( Top heat for grilling of chicken )

Is only that after grilling you will have to clean the inner oven but even those self clean oven we will also clean it once a while right that humans And you can save up the rest of your burget $$$ to purchase other products

sorry for the late reply

KM

[ne0mesis 0]

Hi Melodyfloss ;

sorry for the late reply .

Below are some pointers ;

Brandt FP867XS1 Retail at $1899.00

Multi suction / Auto program / cool Door / Full Glass Door / Turnspit / New Danish Design and Wire Rack / 54 litres / 2 large drip tray ( 45mm& 20mm and 2 safetly grids rack and the cool door and the glass of the oven can be remove / Comes with 9 cooking program and 6 Auto programs

+++ I find this model quite complete as it has all the programs that a person need and for the cleaning is qute easy . GOOD Buy

Brandt FE811XS1 retail at $899.00

Multi Function Oven / Knob control / Temp. recom / Cut off timer / New Danish design / 2 glass door / 6 cooking programs / 1 large tray (20mm) / 2 rack ( for baking of multi rack - cookies / 52 litres

Brandt FC842XS1 Retail at $1399.00

Multi function / Catalytic ( self clean panels = it will absob the oil while grilling and it will min. the cleaning of the inner of the oven . ) / 6 cooking program / Full glass inner door / +++ 45cm drip tray to hold the oil while grilling and you may place some carrots , potatos , onions on it while grilling and all the favour of the oil will drip down . But remember to place an alumnium foil on the tray

Brandy ME 655XG retail at $1599.00

Comi Oven & Microwave Built In / 12 auto program / 40 litres / Elec Spped Deforst .

+++ 2 in 1 is good in space saving and all in one but if you do some grilling and after which you want to defrost , you will need to clean inside first and sometimes the smell will be there . And if one spoilt , the other cant be use as sometimes supplier need to bring back to service . Like wat i suggest that 2 in 1 is good but if possible try to avoid it

+++ All the 3 oven you suggest is from a basic to middle to high end . All got it Pros and Cons . Sometime a basic oven can do wonders ( Just image in the past , those oven comes with 3 program and without turbo fan , but they make the best food )

If you notice that each model is $500 difference between each model ( 3 ovens )

If the price is right , can consider Brandt FE811XS1 as it have all the cooking programs it needed and beside the $$$ difference , you will notice that ithe difference between them are the extra cooking programs ( Which you may not use ) / self clean panels ( some ppls say is good to have but how often you grill ? and is it in large portion ? with self clean panels we also have to clean lastly the higher end model comes with complete features but you may not use all asyou may end up using the basic 3 cooking programs = Tradition pulsed ( top and bottom with Fan cookies chicken ) / Tradtional ( Top and bottom for cakes , meat ) / Grill ( Top heat for grilling of chicken )

Is only that after grilling you will have to clean the inner oven but even those self clean oven we will also clean it once a while right that humans And you can save up the rest of your burget $$$ to purchase other products

sorry for the late reply

KM

Hi KM,

always assured reading your comments on ovens

a fellow forum mate has already shared with me some insights but you can give yr comments too

care to comment on the ecolyse tech from Bosch cost?

my current quote for the brandt oven is 1.2k. is bosch cheaper or more expensive for HBA56B550A?

also, anyone know how much is to buy a catalytic panels from Brandt?

does the frequency of using the oven affects the annually changing of the panels?

cheers!

[xianee 0]

Hi KM,

Thanks for ur reply... really appreciate. In that case, i won't get Rinnai...hmm...most probably persuade my husband to take Electrolux.

[kitchen matters 0]

hi km,

i'm new to this forum

am looking for new oven to buy.

read through the entire thread on build-in oven and came to a conclusion of

Brandt FE811XS1 and Electrolux EOB31001X

seriously, which is better? i cant decide

the price is almost similar.

its hard to choose

can u help me?

million thanks!!

Hi msmine,

sorry for the late reply ,

Brandt model comes with bottom heat ( which can do Kui La Pic ) & Pizza . It can brown or crisp the food . As both are quite same . Is just down to the design of the Oven too ( Example Knobs , Oven handle ) Electrolux may have a upper hand

So is a Tie But for cooking program wise i think Brandt is quite a good buy and if i not mistaken is $100 cheaper than Electrolux ( retail price ) But go and check with those electrical dealers , can get it cheaper

And for the brandt model you may add the self clean panels ( It will absob the oil when grilling , it will min. the cleaning only )in future too ( optional ) And it comes with 2 racks and one 20mm deep tray . So you will save on the extra rack . And if bake or grill non stop for 10 hrs it will shut off it self for safety reason .

sorry for the late reply

KM

[Berry10 0]

Hi KM

I am looking for a rectangular shape oven (the longish type). Do you know which are available & where to buy? Roughly how much it cost.

My La Germania oven is spoilt & i try looking for spare part - bottom heater (1300W). Do you know anywhere got sell beside the agent? I think a generic heater will do as they function the same.

Thanks!

[joseeng 0]

Hi KM,

is it advisable to route anything (example, gas pipe or aircon piping) behind the built in oven? will heat generated behind the oven be very hot??

Thanks in advance.

[kitchen matters 0]

Hi KM,

is it advisable to route anything (example, gas pipe or aircon piping) behind the built in oven? will heat generated behind the oven be very hot??

Thanks in advance.

Hi Joseeng ;

greetings

is actually fine as long not to near. Some designer built a plank infront of the PUB pipe but the oven may not fit in . As now , most brand oven comes with tangential ventalation - it will blow out hot air once the oven reach a certain Temp.

thanks alot

KM

[kitchen matters 0]

Hi KM

I am looking for a rectangular shape oven (the longish type). Do you know which are available & where to buy? Roughly how much it cost.

My La Germania oven is spoilt & i try looking for spare part - bottom heater (1300W). Do you know anywhere got sell beside the agent? I think a generic heater will do as they function the same.

Thanks!

Hi Berry10.

Greetings

You may consider TekaHA 900 , Smeg , Ariston MB 91.2 IX .

And for the heating element, actually i heard outside those selling spare parts do sell it . I check with my friend as he purchase once before .

KM

[ne0mesis 0]

after following tis topic for quite awhile, have finally decided to get brandt FC842XS1 for the following reasons

1. turnspit

2. catalytic panels for easier cleaning

(last heard, panels need not necessary change annually. for home use, change once every 3 yrs is fine. of course, subjected to frequency of use too. damage is $187 inclusive of all the panels, delivery and installation from brandt.)

3. feel is definitely more sturdy than tat of bosch plastic-like doors and joined parts. Brandt interior frames comes in one single piece

Point on Bosch ecolyse technology - as heard, is catalytic panels but similar to tat of pyrolytic cleaning however at 200+ degrees only. seemingly, it will take longer time i.e more electricity

of course, I think i like to call brandt and bosch directly if possible to verify the above.

but more than happy to hear insights first from all the folks in here too. yr comments definitely welcome!

afternote: I call Brandt directly. and is confirmed - for home use, change once every 3 yrs is fine. of course, subjected to frequency of use too. the panels come in a pair @ $150. simple diy instructions on how to change

Edited June 17, 2010 by ne0mesis

[Berry10 0]

Hi Berry10.

Greetings

You may consider TekaHA 900 , Smeg , Ariston MB 91.2 IX .

And for the heating element, actually i heard outside those selling spare parts do sell it . I check with my friend as he purchase once before .

KM

HI KM

Thks for the reply. I went to a few shops near Sungei Road but couldnt find any. Please let me know if you know any shop selling the spare parts.

Cheers

[titanax 0]

3. feel is definitely more sturdy than tat of bosch plastic-like doors and joined parts. Brandt interior frames comes in one single piece

this is interesting, coz this was the same reason we went the other way, the brandt model we saw was a single piece glass with it had screws on all 4 sides & the inner frame was padding were 2 pieces, the bosch on the other hand was a single paned glass & finished in single piece.

How bizarre indeed!

Edited June 18, 2010 by titanax