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- how i wish i stil hav outstanding ICT. - really miss e 'days'.

Hey fellow neighbours, - 1 of our neighbours is helping out in a Blood Donation Drive at Toa Payoh Central CC. - kindly participate if u r interested. - e blood donation drive ends at 3pm 2day.

- e dentistry used 2b located beside lor 5 market. - met e dentist outside e clinic then found out. Was surprised he stil remembers mi. - used 2 go there few yrs bak. - so far, mi no complain. - yah. w/o fail. Think dats his 'free motel'. - his toilet is jus beside = washing bay w tap (w/o tap-head). - ever saw him go 2 his 'personal toilet' in e middle of e nite. - e highest transacted price was $580k, lowest was $412k. Depends on size of flat & balance tenure of flat. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - dis few days, e mscp is undergoing washing. - motorists do take note. - ur vehicles may b washed 'clean' or 'dirty'. Depends on how u lok at it. !! - saw 1 of e neighbors in 79E (4got 27th or 28th sty), had their own Table-Tennis table. - they wld set up e table in e lift lobby & play their game. Mayb i shal join them 1 of this days. - lately, encounter quite a few 'beggars' in TPY, frm e very young 2 e very old. - 2 giv or not 2 giv, up 2 individual. - times r bad... - any1 hangs e National Flag oleady? - wher can i get it? - TPY CC? - my previous 1 was free, given by RC. - dunoe our RC Zone 2 does gif out free 2 residents of 79 anot?

- if only 2 person eat, then i think eat out wld save alot of extra hse chores. - sum ppl like 2 try different types of dishes at different area, not eating e same dish frm e same stall every day. - e benches? Well, i think its meant 4 non-residents. - talk abt our Service Industry? Well, i olso agree wif u. Sillipore's got much more 2 improve, not jus by 'faking a smile'... - wen i was working in e middle-eastern country, i find dat e standard of their Service Industry (Retail & F&B) is much higher. - e service staffs' mindset & attitude r different.

Hey neighbours, - i notice there r sum ppl sleeping on e metal benches over e nite. - the same ppl wil occupy e same bench every nite. Esp e 1 behind e lift lobby at blk E. - to mi, they dun look local. - any1 notive dat? - any Residents On Patrol here?

- dis car driver had found a nice & cosy parking lot. - i wonder is he/she a VIP of e Central Horizon neighbourhood? - 4 e benefit of doubt, e RED color lots r RESERVE FOR SEASON TICKET HOLDERS 7PM - 7AM MON - SAT, WHOLE DAY FOR SUN & PH. - in fact, dis car had parked at e lots meant for motorcycles. - can some1 go check is e car stil there? (Deck 3A, beside 79C lift lobby) - if its stil there, pls call 1800 2721409 to report illegal parking. - wonder Season Ticket Holders can park anywher, s long s ther is space? - wonder e nos. of car lots izit really dat limited? Esp. Sunday! - wonder e carpark enforcement is working anot? Esp. Sunday!

- 1 standard king/queen size bed w/o fanciful bedhead & frame. - 1 built-in or ready-made wardrobe, width sufficient for H&W normal usage. - possibly a small bedsize table (depends on layout). - these can b done w/o hacking of adjacent bedrm 2 wall. - a better configuration wld b combinin MBR & Bdrm 2. - mbr wld then only hav a bed. bdrm 2 wld then b a walk-in walkrobe cum study rm. - bdrm 3 parents/kids or future usage. 3rd B.E. more ex. - tot end of las yr suppose 2b 3rd Balloting Exercise? - 2nd B.E. was in Apr2008 - 1st B.E. was in Aug2005 - y dun wait 4 e recently launched : The Peak at TPY - s compare 2 Central Horizon, more perks, more value for $$$

- aiyo, more rd humps along e service driveway? - my brake-pads botak liao. - i notice ther r a few small cc bike which parks in e mscp. - their exhaust is xxxkin loud. - mayb nex time i try 2 snap e bike pix then 4ward u. U can then attach it in e LTA/ROV email. - yes. u r rite. Somehow, sound do travel upwards. - i compared my frnds who stay at e <12sty & myself >30sty, i can hear e difference. - at higher levels, e vehicle engine/exhaust/braking/honkin sound frm e surrounding rds can b heard. - while at lower levels, esp <12sty , e same sound is being blocked by e buildings near to e rds. - meaning e Tall Trees & Buildings between ur unit & e rd (sound source) r e Physical Buffer. - olso e front & e back units, have slight different in noise level. base on my observation & experiment -> - partially opened windows emit lesser noise frm outside s compare 2 fully opened windows. - window curtains reduces noise frm outside. - more furnishings in e bedrm absorb noise in e rm. - timber flooring (timber strip/parquet/laminated flooring) absorb sound s compare 2 tile flooring. - eg. a bedrm with homo tile finished, no furnishing yet, no curtains, fully opened window, e noise frm outside, esp e main rd, can b heard clearly & it wil somehow echo (bounce) in e rm. making it kinda loud. - s compare 2 a bedrm wif parquet flooring, built in wardrobe, cabinets, bedhead & frame, thick mattress, day & nite curtains, half opened windows, e noise level frm e external is at e minimum. - nebermind lah. - ndure another 2 yrs. By then, we can sell e flat liao, rite? - for e past half yr, TPY Lor1/2, Blk 150+, >30th sty units, floor area 85-91sqm, e highest resale transanction price is $588K - hope wen our time cums, e market wld hav been better & e econ picked-up. - mayb we can sell >$600 then. Hopefully, $618K. HUAT Ah!!!

Hey aubrey, - base on e requirements, i est. it can b done approx. $20k by Contractor. - inclusive of electrical re-wiring & basic lightings & standard sanitary fittings & cooker hob & hod. - wif e same amt of work 2b done by ID & items 2b purchased, it wld b + min. 10%. Hey aubrey, - e quote looks reasonable 2 mi. Not too cheap not too expensive frm a ID, not Contractor. - s replied above, i felt dat ur budget of $15k is not realistic base on wat u wanted. - dun 4get to add new furnishing/fixtures etc approx <$10k. - u oleady noes wat u wan, jus dat u nid 2 ngage e Rite guy who can meet ur budget. - choice of kitchen worktop depends mainly on how often u gona cook or rather uses e kitchen. - basically granite is natural stone (tough). Solid surface is man-make fixtures consist of polymers/plastics etc (resistence level is defintely lower). Corian is 1 of e upper grade of solid surface, got warranty. - granite joint is jointed with 'marble gum'. - regardless of solid surface or granite worktop, it is sitting on e solid plywood which inturns is supported by e vertical bracing solid plys within e carpentry. It wil not break so easily. - in reality, cost price of granite & solid surface is abt e same. - who cares its China or India granite? s long s e stone is more durable than 'plastic'. - WM base can opt not 2 hav. Depends on how u gona drain e excess soiled water, expose e drainage pipe anot? - Fridge base can olso opt not 2 hav. Can use e four 'stool' s wat u mentioned earlier. - kitchen wall tiles, can do e min. Dat means tile e part u gota see only, those areas behind e cabinet can b left bare. Plaster e area between e top & bottom cabinet. Paint finished. - who say 3rm flat canot change layout? Wif $, e layout can b mirror except e wet areas. - so who did u ngage finally.

So coincidence, was also thinking of booking that function room but was sent all over by govt pple. Called TC, they said not under their care, asked me to call HDB branch office. Called branch off, they said it's under TC. Then TC said it's RC. Checked RC no. in the web and got the above no. Jacky listed. But when called, it's the TPY CC tel and they asked me to call another no. - 62590558 but have called for the past few nights and no one picks up my calls!! Arrgghhh! If any RC volunteers see this msg, can u kindly let us know what is the best way to contact u? Thanks in advance! By the way, there is this monthly recycling event by Tzu Chi Foundation this Sunday 12 Apr 9am-12noon at The Pavilion Blk 78A. Since I know of their event, I've been collecting all the toilet paper rolls, milk powder tins, plastic bottles that I previously just chuck away Below are the items I've lifted from their pamplets : Materials that they collect are: mineral water bottles, plastic and bottles (bottles of soft drinks, milk, yakult ,shampoo etc), metal cans & tins (biscuit boxes, milk powder tins etc), aluminium cans (soft drinks cans), paper cartons (paper boxes, egg trays, toilet paper rolls etc), paper (newspapers, mags, books, envelopes etc), old clothes,electrical appliances, metallic items (metal and stainless steel items such as pots and pan etc), and others (sch bags, leather, belts, shoes, soft toys, dry batteries, CD discs etc). So, neighbours, let's do our little part in this recycling effort! - ohh. Dunoe my info wrong or they neber update e tel no. - now can see how dis two organizations work! Transfer here & transfer there. Then 4.30pm stop ntertain u liao, ask u cal 2moro, if Fri, ask u cal nex wk... - e notice board at our lift lobby, there is a notice which states e members name & contacts of TPY RC Zone 2. - mayb u wana dial e tel instead, i gues it mus b up 2 date. - can try look for Mr Frankie Tong. He's e chairman, very helpful. He olso surf Renotalk occasionally. - if u gona cal RC tel no., i gues gota call after office hrs. Most members r volunteers wif their own daytime work. - if u gona cal his hp, i gues anytime. - his hp. no, can try ask Mr Alister or Ms Hana79. - sms mi if u wan their hp. no. - brief summary base on wat i noe -> > function rm beside mscp, under TPY RC Zone 2. > link-building behind 79A, open-space beside dusbin compound, under BTPY TC. > foodcourt infront 79E, hdb's hawkers sectn. Hygiene matters can cal NEA. > mscp, service driveway illegal parking, under hdb's carparks sectn. > common corridor, landscaped area, playgrnd, fitness corner, linkway, under BTPY TC. > water & electrical & gas, under SP Powergrid services. > corridor lightings & lift black-out, under EMSU. > internal flat matters, under hdb. > neighbours dispute etc, under 999. - but dunoe e function rm can b booked anot? so far i'd seen them used 4 meeting only. - u wan 2 book e rm 4 wat? 4 ur garung guni collection or flea market? - btw, i stil got many unwanted stuff 2 throw...

- all the while is like dat 1 wat. - parking lots which r demarcated wif RED paint r RESERVED FOR SEASON TICKET HOLDERS FROM 7.00pm - 7.00am Mon-Sat. Whole Day for SUN & PH. - non-season ticket holder can park in these RED lots between 7am - 7pm Mon-Sat, except Sun & PH.. - Season Ticket Holders can park at any lot regardless of color of lots & time of e day. - between e time of 7am - 7pm, it is assumed dat e residents wif Season Parking Tickets r at work, vehicle is driven out 2 e working place. Wif e exception of 'Off-peak Car/Weekend Car'. - Non-season Ticket Holders can olso park in white color/normal lots during anytime of e day but wif Parking Coupon. - for our mscp, there is no free parking on Sun & PH. - Free Parking On Sunday And Public Holidays From 7.00 am To 10.30 pm r available at the nearby carparks. 1) behind blk 79, infront blk 85 (2 nos. mscp, 1 no. open-surface carpark); 2) behind blk 177 (1 no. open-surface carpark); 3) behind blk 66 (1 no. open surface carpark). Dis carpark tends 2b crowded during sunday prayers timings. - dat function rm shd b under e charge of Toa Payoh RC Zone 2. Toa Payoh Central Zone '2' RC Blk 179 Toa Payoh Central #01-462 S(310179) Tel 6254 6842 Fax 6354 4950 - - wonder is it done out of mischief or avenge??? - i belief its kinda hard 2 catch e culprit. - many a times wen i go 2 e mscp in e wee hrs, i can see vehicles going out. Its either they r not residents of 79 or they work graveyard shift. - base on my own assumptions -> e better locations 2 park r -> 1) e whole row of lots nearer 2 e blk behind. (in view by blk behind). 2) e few lots between e side staircases (link 2 blk) & motorcycle lots. (in view by blk 79 B & D kitchens' windows. 3) e 2 corner lots near blk B or D. (in view by blk 79 B or D aircon ledges' windows). 4) e higher decks but with e presence of other cars. (lowerr % of being target for vandalism s compare 2 e only car 2 choose frm if e culprit is vandalising out of mischief) e not so gd, most secluded/out of view/insecure location 2 park r -> 1) e whole row of lots in e center of e mscp on both decks A & B. e rows dat abut e air-void. (not in view by any residents' windows) 2) Decks 1A, 2A, 3A, 1B, 2B, 3B. (esp. dark at all times of e day, beli out-of-view/confined). 3) Top 2 decks, esp wen u r e only car. (higher % of being target for vandalism s compare 2 e many cars 2 choose frm on e lower decks if e culprit is vandalising out of mischief).

So, any happenings in e neighbourhood lately? 1) paint demarcation of parking lots in mscp had been repaint & more lots r being allocated 4 season ticket holders in RED. 2) A 7-11 outlet is cuming-up below blk D. Took over frm e 'foot massage parlour' whose business is uncomparable 2 e 1 near TPY mrt stn. Saw dis 7-11 store e deco is in orange color. Kinda different. Wonder e things they sell r different anot? Any neighbours here is e 'boss'? Fyi, all 7-11 stores r under franchise scheme.

Hey neighbours, - any1 got 'House Mover' 2 intro? - looking at reasonable price 1. (frm PGL to TPY lor 6 upgraded flat, lift mayb kinda small. Abt 5 tall cabinets, 1 altar cabinet & some packed boxes.)

- wat do u mean? - fyi, some ppl frm e latest batch of Balloting Exercise oleady finishing their reno. - some units r stil 'no movements'. There's a few near the mscp at lower lev, 1 of those mus b urs? - e procedures & sequence of balloting exercise r stil e same, its a matter of u meeting hdb's critiria for purchasing a New Flat & e efficiency of HDB Sales Unit. HDB Infoweb e-Sales - wen u book ur flat during e selection day, u had paid e $2k Option Fee? Frm then, there wil b a hdb sales unit officer assign 2 u. He/she wil see u thru e whole transaction process til u collect ur keys. He/she is e person u gota liase wif. - after collection of keys, there is another officer assign 2 u. He/she is e officer frm Toa Payoh Branch Office, whom u go after for any defects/complain/flat related matters. - for areas outside of flat, corridor, estate precint, it is under e charge of Bishan-Toa Payoh Town Council . - in fact, e lapse period between e SERS ppl & u to take possesion of e flat is >One Year. I assume by now -> - lockset kinda 'tight'. - metal gate kinda 'rusty'. - window frames & panes kinda 'dirty'. - e tap mixers, shower heads kinda 'rusty'. - sanitary fittings kinda 'dirty'. - etc... - e fittings & fixtures shd b in good or reasonable acceptable conditions, taking in2 considering the 'dust & dirt' accumulated during dis 1 yr. Not 4geting e 'premium' u gonna pay for ur flat. In conclusion, dun b 'soft hearten' 2wards e officer u gona deal wif but in a reasonable courteous manner.

Location: Blk 79E TPY Ctrl >#30 Date: 25Feb09 Time: 1850 Weather: after rain Equipment: SE K800i cybershot camera phone Pix not well taken, nevertheless, jus wana share wif fellow neighbours ->

- 101% agreed with ur pts, esp e above highlighted words. - current available assistance by Singapore Workforce Development Agency (WDA) -> 1) Professional Skills Programme (PSP) for Professionals, Managers, Executives, Technicians (PMETs); 2) Jobs placement Programmes ...; 3) Skills Upgrading Programmes ...; 4) Job Re-creation Programme ...; 5) Skills Programme for Upgrading and Resilience (SPUR). - base on my observation, there r still 4 other grps of Singapore Citizens who r being left out. - basically, they cant make use of e programmes which r inplaced. 2b exact, it wil indirectly make their 'lives' even worse. - those who fall in2 dis 4 other grps wil experience it 1st hand. Not e 'high-flyers' who sit comfortably. - e assistance/programmes by e gahment ought 2b improved in order not 2 leave anybody behind in e present bad economy crisis.

Hey yhw22, - think ur info on e pricing of e prata shop dnstrs, might not b accurate. - i had not tried but my neighbor had. He said its ok loh, e curry was 'dry', not dat great. - yah, e 1 at lor 4 market, e pricing is norm or rather not expensive. - seem 2 mi its e pricing of > 5yrs ago? - no fanciful pattern prata though. Hey babymaro2003, - saw some poo on e sky garden lately!!! on e pavement!!! - my neighbor's dog? i can only say its a 'mad dog'!!! - imagine wen u'r too ngross watching tv then suddenly e dog bark & bark!!! - anytime in e day, whoever walk pass their front gate, e dog wld bark!!!. - 1 - 2am wen e rest of e neighbors r sound asleep & doors closed, e dog olso bark!!! - its e loud loud non-stop type. e owner wld jus call out e dog's name ... - all e neighbors at my lev r irritated by them. - heard frm my neighbor (SERS), wen dis owner were at old blk (b4 SERS), alot of their past neighbors were olso irritated. - now new neighbors, new 'dis-harmony'. Hey porkypig, - yah jus across e rd but mus take note of their business hrs. Hey RacKel, - yah. Tried e 1 at lor 4 market. Corner stall on e rite near to blk 66 & e 4 sty shophses. - prata kosong = $0.70 - prata w egg = $1.30 - nasi goreng w ikan billis = $3.00 - ... - e curry is reasonably gd. It wld b better if it cld b more spicier. - e prata is reasonably nice. Crispy on e outside, creamy on e inside. It cld b better if each dough is much bigger. - but if 'takeaway', it wont b s crispy s eating there, due 2 packing, no 'airing'. - nevertheless, e madam & her daughter is polite. - had been going bak 4 more after e 1st ...

Indian Foodstall at 79 Foodpark - prata kosong $1 = reasonable - prata telok $2 = - unless it is hot, chrispy on e outside, creamy on e inside. - unless e curry is 'thick'. Indian Foodstall at 73, left side kopitiam - lor 4? u mean blk 73, e kopitiam on e left, e stall beside e lift? - used to eat their prata wen i was young, >20yrs ago, it was gd then. - now, dunoe how izit liao. - anway, many prata shop in sg hav their 'dough' supply by e main distibutor. - end of e day, its their cutlery skill & e 'yummyness' of e fish or chicken curry. - for now, my favorite prata shops r at bugis area. Kopitiam beside temple, TPY Ctrl - dat kopitiam used 2b called 'Nasi Padang' in e 80s & early 90s. - 1 of e popular muslim food hunt in TPY. - luved e 'roti john' then. - had since change ownership & management then. - was there few wks bak, yah, e attitude of e prata shop, sucks. i experience e same, like they r e only prata shop in tpy. - e tea i had dat day tasted awful olso, e water like frm rusty pipe or e tea too blend. - did not finish it. Normally, i wld drink 2-3 cups wen chatting w frnds.

- mayb put up a notice at e lift lobby's notice board regarding dis proposed RC meeting. - nowadays dis thread is less active liao. - aniway, my short list of doubts -> 1) dogs' poo at grass patch. - No signage 2 deters dogs' owner frm leaving e dogs' poo behind? 2) dogs' barking nuisance, esp my neighbour's. - No laws/rules 2 restrain e dogs' nuisance? - No education 2 educate e nuisance dogs' owners? 3) mscp too dark during e day, esp e lower decks. - No knowledge of changing e type of light bulbs/tubes? - No knowledge of resetting e timer or sensor? 4) common corridors tends 2b swept or cleaned only on any other days. - No daily cleaning routine for common corridors? 5) common corridors & mscp tends 2b washed only wen got VIP visiting. - No mthly scheduled blk washing? 6) rubbish bins at e lift lobbies r olways full, rubbish spilled around e bins. - No freqeunt clearing of rubbish bins at lift lobbies or where human traffic is heavy? 7) e telecommunication signal is beli poor in e blks, esp e higher levels. - No proper installation of TV entenna? - No proper installation of handphone signal transmital? 8) Y i hav so many doubts? - Not living in a mature estate which had existed since e late 1960s? - Not having e competent or dutiful 'authorities' 2 carry out their riteful jobs? - Not paying e 'authorities' their mthly fees to provide mi with their riteful services? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - btw, at Kim Keat Link neighbourhood, they had e CCTV installed at e lift lobbies & inside e lifts. - a monitor is then placed at a top corner of e 1st storey lift lobby. - e monitor wil alternate images inside e lifts & lift lobby. - users r able 2 see wats goin on inside e lifts or lift lobby. - e images r olso recorded with date & time. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey neighbours, - mi was at e foodpark on Sat eveing dinner time, it was full-hse. - saw e duck rice stall closed. - had it closed 4 gd? - saw e chicken rice stall had been replaced by a Indian Foodstall. There were continuous patrons. - any comments on dis Indian Foodstall? - esp e prata & murtabak. - at blk 85, there r 2 kopitiams, 1 on e left side, 1 at e centre. - both sell quite similar food. - any comments on their food & price?

Hey mackeith, - think u'd posted in e wrong thread. - dis thread is a thread on forumers' reno progress with pics, comments, advice, complaints, ... etc - aniway, below is an extract frm earlier post in other thread, fyi & necessary actions.

- light on heater NOT LIGHT UP? Then is e water hot? - call e shop wher u bought e storage heater frm, who is olso e dealer, - they wil then refer u 2 e Ariston CSC, who inturns wil send their man dn 2 check & rectify, - dis man whom e agent send is olso a electrician but not plumber. - so who 2 call now?

Hey LGians, - any1 got floor plans or pics of e units (done or not done) 2 show? - pass by there 2 days ago, saw some units with beli long window. Meaning many panels of windows in e living rm. - i suppose it mus b e 5-roomers?

- there is a list of approved & certified plumbers & electrician by TC. - their charges r much cheaper than external parties 1 ngage. - can refer 2 TC website or notice board at lift lobby 4 details. - u r rite. - water supply frm pub main to services duct. In e G&W service duct, there is a gas meter & a water meter. - e water meter reflects e household water usage amount & e master stop-valve regulates e water flow. Tightening or turning it clockwise wil cut-off e water supply 4 e whole unit. - water is then supply thru concealed pipings to e sanitary & plumbing appliances in e unit. - b4 e water is supply 2 e appliances, there is a stop-valve which is a metal joint with a red or grey color lever. - e purpose of dis stop-valve is 2 control e water supply in times wen e flexible hose or tap-mixer or WC cistern nid 2b replace or rather e water supply nids 2b temp. cut-off. - it is not advisable 2 remove dis stop-valve / stop-cock if any1 is replacing or modifying e original fittings. - w/o window grilles, e view is great & e feel is good. - mi olso installed window grilles 4 a sense of safety 4 my mum. In e long run, its safety 4 e kids. - 4 JM flats, e total window area is not dat huge. - if i remember correctly, was in e range of $700-$900. But olso gota depends on other factors. - window grilles pricing is computed base on area of opening (sqft) x types of grilles >$4.80/sqft. - casement grilles, + $0.80/sqft. - thicker grilles, eg. 2mm thick, +$0.80/sqft. - complicated design, +$0.80/sqft. - all dis pricing r based on bronzed anodized aluminium window grilles. Prices may hav changed but methods of computing is stil e same. - there r selected types of grilles design dat r allowed by hdb 2b installed. Wrought iron grilles which is much nicer & more expensive is definitely out.

- tot lately e wind kinda strong? - stil nid 2 ON aircon & fan? - u muz b beli e 'hot'? - aniway, HUAT AH 2009!!!

- dats y i installed alum window grilles with 2mm thickness. - s u noe, mine is a corner unit with e alum. perforated panel w railing installed perpendicularly 2 e main door. - e strong wind wil nters frm my front door & thru e kitchen. Gota close main door & half-open kit window if using e stove. e dusty particles wil olso b blown in frm e corridor. - e strong wind olso cums frm e living & bedrm windows which faces Bishan. So most of e time, e windows r opened <10cm jus 4 e sake of ventilation. - my neighbour who faces e city, told mi its 2 half of e yr dat e wind wil change direction. - now my side strong wind, his no wind. Later half of e yr, his wil hav strong wind, mine no wind. - aniway, got wind anot is 1 one thing. Currently, e wind is especially stronger than b4. - >HALF A MILLION!!! - mi looking 4ward liao. 5yrs time i wana b HALF A MILLIONAIR!!!. - i olways wanted 2b interviewed by e news presenter wen they in TPY Ctrl but olways dun hav e chance. Wonder y? - u wil b shocked if u find out e difference in price for e same unit if purchase under SERS. - i belong 2 e 1st batch of Balloting Ex (aug2005) so my purchase price was listed e lowest among e Ballot Exs.. My neighbour who r under SERS told mi their purchase price, it is a whopping $100k lesser. - if i remember correctly -> -- 2003 or 2004 SERS, their direct purchase price = $A + 20% discount + $30k reno (perks only applies to >5 yrs of existing tenancy) -- Aug2005 Balloting Ex, listed selling price = $A -- Feb2008 Quaterly Sales of 4-rms & bigger Flats in Mature Estate, listed selling price = $A + $80K approx. -- Jul2008 Half-yearly Sales of 4-rms & bigger Flats in Mature Estate, listed selling price = $A + $80K + $10k approx. - my childhood frnd who belongs 2 e 3rd batch of B.E., had proven 2 mi e real facts on property 4ever rising price. His unit is <5th sty & if base on my balloting period, dat unit was listed abt $90k lesser than his current purchase price. - many reasons. eg. -> -- pay $2k select unit. B4 Option To Purchase, withdraw application, fortfeit $2k. Unit therefore wil b released at e nex Balloting Ex. -- pay $2k select unit, signed Option To Purchase. Withdraw application (personal or financial difficulties), fortfeit 10% of purchase price + legal fees + stamp fees. Unit therefore wil b released at e nex Balloting Ex. -- e term financial means Housing Loan not approve or approved liao but later not able 2 service e installements if sign loan. 'Housing Loan Eligibilty' frm hdb only implemented after e B.E. Ex. Now, no matter hdb or bank loan, gota get Offer Letter 1st then can execute 'Option To Purchase'. -- e term personal means Couple (husband & wife 2b) balloted & selected unit under Fiance Scheme but later e couple split up b4 ROM. -- if after ROM & wana divorce, for chinese they had 2 retain e flat & sell it off only after their divorce in 3 yrs time. For muslim, there is another set of law, kinda different frm chinese. -- if ROM liao but havnt customary, can opt for Annulment. Flat wil b return 2 hdb & fortfiet all paid monies. -- ... e above r solely base on my limited knowledge, not representing any property analysis, hdb flat evaluator, marriage consultant etc. Pls update if my facts r wrong.