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Hi ZIRHK, Thanks again for the information. After dicussing with my wife over a period of time, we feel that we dont need design/features but of course need wardrobe, tiolets & kitchen cabinets, wiring and lighting. But then dealing with every single contractors for every single works will be ****. So better to have 1 that do all. Thanks!

Hi being there and talk to the boss, very friendly and easy to talk. Very patient, show me cctv also. Very impressive. The id (shanghai guy) also very patient bringing me around the showflats showing me their projects and their worksmanship. Since I have already have on mind: Move in condition, I will have to go down again (probably a few weeks later) to talk again what I really want and hopefully can shortlisted him).

Hello, Since it is a move in condition with little or not features / design, then it is better to deal directly with contractors than thru id. Thanks!! HAPPY

Hi Bullet, Thanks. What is 3 or more corners of the pointers are flush? How to check?

Oh that is indeed a good response to give them. You are right, if so many receipts, can they do my new unit good? You are right!

Thanks SUMMER, beside 'hidden cost', I think I also need to know 'hidden work'. hehehehehe....

Hi Bullet Thanks again for your information. I will take note of that also. Wow, it is indeed really scary to hear that. I dont know that touting for customers is illegal.

Thanks SUMMER. I have confirm that I want granite. But unable to decide which one cos I find that only few choices. (I want more lighter colour). Also asking alot how granite they lay...etc....so that I know what they actually do. 1 id even told me after laying granite, they need to polish it!! Maybe he is trying to smoke me. Initially I believe him but then after talking to other id, I find that he is smoking me.

Thanks. I have already in mind of having a granite top with single bull nose and back splash. And also solid ply wood and abs. How to check chipped wood??

Hi TYM, thanks! I have so far talkt to about 5 id and next sunday appointment with another 2 id with quatotions. Wow, I am getting some lead now compare to last 2 weeks as I am lost. I want to tanglin halt to view many units too. Especially from nearby reno id. Can you tell me what to look for for kitchen cabinet? What to ask? Normally they told me solid ply wood...I dont know how good is that.

Hi Bullet, thanks. He is going to call me this week (I dont know when), I think I will jsut tell him I am not free for this month. Ask him to kiv. BTW, how come the contractors like to show me the receipts other customers sign from him???? To prove that many customers indeed sign for his company???

Thanks FEL for your response. Today I went to expo home renovation and talk to 1 renovation id. I have learn another term. I told them I want only: Move In Condition. So they indeed give me only the very basic things such as titles, wardrobe, kitchen cabinets, tiolet. That's all and I am able to see the average price range for my new flats. I am not saying homemakers is bad, just the bad encountered I have with them. Seem like they want to seal and close the contract asap only. As I have about 2 months plus, I will have to talk to other renovators id before I decide which is the best one.

Hi mine are 5 room and also 4 room. h4happy#gmail.com Thanks!

Wow thanks every body for your quick response. Yes I value worksmanship, especially floor and kitchen cabinet. That is the most important item in my finalised checklist. Even though someone quote me eg: $15,000 for 5 room and worksmanship is suck, I will not take it. I am going to another big renovators id this afternoon. Hopefully can streamdown / shortlist what I want. I will be careful with those contractors trying to tell me they can match the other contractors quotation. I still have 2 months plus hunting. So I will take my time slowly. I will update everybody again. Thks! HAPPY Wow thanks every body for your quick response. Yes I value worksmanship, especially floor and kitchen cabinet. That is the most important item in my finalised checklist. Even though someone quote me eg: $15,000 for 5 room and worksmanship is suck, I will not take it. I am going to another big renovators id this afternoon. Hopefully can streamdown / shortlist what I want. I will be careful with those contractors trying to tell me they can match the other contractors quotation. I still have 2 months plus hunting. So I will take my time slowly. I will update everybody again. Thks! HAPPY

Thanks for your info. For my case, I am waiting for the key. And I intend to make it simple. No l box, false ceiling, no design features (except storage room). Just simple, plain, warm colours. Thanks again! HAPPY

Hi WaiLeong Thks for your info. The contractor told me not to show to anyone. I dont know the reason. Guess he dont want others to undercut his quotation. Happy

Hello, I dont know whether this will help you. It is better to have a few quotation and compare. Of course your list must be finalised so that is will be easy to compare. Any new items they quote will be easy to fish out. This is what I do now for my new flat. Still hunting for contractors. Good and bad experience I have since last 2 weeks.

Hi All Just want to know it is possible? Cos' I encounter also other contractors asking me to show him the quotation for another contractor. And told me let him do with the same price as what the contractor quote for you. Please advise and thanks!! HAPPY

Hi ALL I just want to know whether it is too early to look for contractors ID. I will be getting my key around Oct 07. Got a very unpleasant encountered by one contractors telling me it is too early, give me a suck up look and walk off as if I am a begger! I feel like I was being punch in my face by his remarks. Please advise and thanks! HAPPY

Hi MUFFIN You mean COOS design & Concepts??? I wanted to call also. I dont know good or not. HAPPY

Yesterday afternoon, I have a meeting with another new contractor, and I asked him to wait for me at the new flat (downstair), you know, new flats normally have a few contractors hanging around. There is one very unpleasant encounter by me that day. I am sure you also will not be happy. 'A" contractor asked my when I take my key, I told him around Oct. He laughed and give me a suck up face look and told me it it too early. I shot back at him telling him I need to look for a few contractors for quotations. Cannot mah? He just walked off giving me his unhappy look. Then another contractor 'B' from came and reorganised me and told them I have sign the contract. I shot back at him telling him still not finalise yet as comfirm by the ID. He seem not too please and mumbling to other contractors about me as I can see his gestures. As I have shortlist homemakers, this really put me off. What kind of salesman is he? Very BAD!! That make me very unhappy about it. And another contractor 'C' approached me too and as I am already not in good mood, I told him that how to do business when this kind of pple? Even if it is very cheap, I wont sign with them! I told that guy doing business cannot be like that. If you pull a long face, how to talk business with those contractors. I speak in a very lot voice. I dont know that 2 guys heard it or not. My question is : Is it too early to look for contractors for quotation??? Date of expected key is around oct 07. I am very unhappy with this kind of attitude the contractors show me! Worst is that I have shortlist Homemakes ID and it really make me strike it off. What you thinks guy??

This afternoon, called another 2 contractors for quotation. I will be meeting up 1 contractors with what I want (already listed on the paper: finalised items). And tomrrow another one. Now a little smart already. Told him asking for quotation needs to sign on the spot or not? Also told him I need to consider your quotation and to compare with others too. And they say ok no problem!

I have talked to my friend during lunch, he told me actually those design feature is more appealing to youngsters and have no children. But then features/design only good to look at but storage is quite limited as he is one of the victims (from another id). So, he asked me to do away all the design/features but just do storage features (simple one will do) and of course kitchen (no choice). That will save alot of money. By using the money, go and shop at imm or furniture shop or ask for tailor made, it cost much cheaper and easy to maintain. But then, until now, I am still waiting for other quotation to come. A bit very tired.....

Hi OON, Thanks. I am getting my keys around oct 07. Just started to hunt for contractors. I want to keep my new house simple without any feature walls, l box, etc... I thought asking for quotation is not finalised. But since yesterday incident, I really feel stress out by the contractors as he just want to close the case. I am not rich and I have budget limit. But then he told me my new house will let pple see as my house will be design (not sure what he means). But then I dont need such design as carpentry works are very expensive and of course it looks pretty in the beginning. But then when everyday see the design, one will feel bored. That is why I dont want any feature design wall or false wall. What I want is floor tiles, kitchen cabinet, wardrobe, or maybe very simple feature wall to cover the storage room. That's all. Even I also considering the cancel off the design shoe rack in front of the main door as it cost about $1,600+++!

Hi JASZ Thanks and I am really happy to hear that from you. I will visit your blog to take a look. I have see their showflats and my mu is quite impress with his tiltles layout. But only it seem like I was pressure to sign the form as I am still comparing and waiting for quotation. Please pm me as I need to talk to you for adivce if possible. Thanks. HAPPY