kronotex seem really good haha my bf and myself were given a 30mins introduction at the kronotex booth, if we get it direct thru them, it will be cheaper and after-service will be better etc... quite cool, he was using fire to burn it, scratch etc..really seem resistant but the colours of the 12mm are limited. anyway the ID i intend to uses, uses kronotex unless specified, so kronotex it shall be gosh, the flats r ready as early as august..goodness... anyhow i cant collect hehe...have fun guys!