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Better not cos 看风水，不是看平面图. House have 气色,like our face, if its healthy its call 春色, the colour of spring, unhealthy mean dull and gloomy, all these cannot be seen with floor plan. In some FS forum, forummers like to post pictures and stuff, thats becos sometimes from pictures can see signs (卦象).

TJ, So did you get a bed with storage underneath?

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Hey Kali, Mind if i ask you some question in open for research purposes ?

Hey Kali, Very interesting......diamond shape house. Wheres this place ? Thanks for the picture. Cheers.

KC, Is this water ?

KC, From the picture is it fire element ? Welcome other forummer to join in the game too.

KC, Water is water no matter what state is it ? So red means fire too ?

Oh boy why you so lou hei ? ha ha ha

KC, Its just that we have different practice, I do not see water as water.

KC, Seriously what is basic ?

Hey Kali, Cos my view is everything belong to signs (八卦), therefore if the sign belongs to an element that does not clash with stove fire then its ok. Before we commit what element is an object we must look carefully and think about its uses, shapes and colour with uses as top priority, these are example of identifying signs (卦)。Thats does not mean that some signs(卦) are bad or some signs are good, we must be able to identify the pro and cons, 正面 or 负面 of each（卦). If pro we use, if con we avoid. Like messy cables are bad so we use tubing to keep them tidy then the signs become good. Like water, can let people drink, but what happen when water is use to wash dishes ? Is water still water ?Water in its original state and uses is for us to drink but thru time and space it transform to other uses. Its just like today I polite, tomorrow I rude, next day I study hard, all this is a transformation of several me and myself. Easier said is, SG have SG so call 4 seasons, no matter how it change its still in SG. You have your 5 element and I have my 5 element, we no need to snatch from each other. Like the world, my winter is your summer so on and so forth. Is all about time and space. If we flash back to ancient time, there was no basin, the water well is outside of the house,also the toilet and lastly the washing area,even cooking sometimes is outside the house. We have to becareful when using so call ancient myth, it might be an invention along the way to modernisation. Modernisation brought everything under one roof. I also never heard about Kuan Yin facing bed from outside hall way, my knowledge is when house got alot of different statues (漫天神佛), then very hard to have peace. So as for these discussion all I can say is, if one party say avoid then if avoid means feel better just avoid it, but what if to those consumer can't avoid ? I think the best way is still survey and get the statistic. So the more people with basin oppo stove chime in the clearer picture we have but there are many other factors affecting stove too. What can we say without house survey or audit ? If its seriously a water sign then it will not clash with fire, if not how we boil soup? Cooking also need water too. Water enter stove transform into food for us, its a creation. So to us whats the use of water? Like KC said 既济卦 or 未济卦，is just who is on top who is below, water on top fire below 既济，fire on top water below 未济, from here we see its just a matter of where things change to at that time. Of cos in FS we use element to do certain calculation and also to achieve mountain stars to be healthy, thus we will use an element that compliment the master mountain star element. 客来生主关系. Fire and Water, although comes together will fight each other, depends on yin and yang too. For example yang water and ying fire although element clash but yin yang combine, vice versa, combines means new creation ! So before we look at element first we must look at the yin yang of the object. Stove with real fire is yang fire. To be fair Kali, you are asking KC what the clash does, that belong to 断事, which is looking at signs and clashes and stating down the outcome, thats not an easy question. I can share with you, fire stand for polite, clear minded, fast, these are a few examples of fire good character, so if fire gone wrong.....you will know how to tell. Lastly "TIME IS YANG, SPACE IS YING"， ying and yang is a relationship, example like a Head of Department (HOD), in front of bosses the HOD is ying, infront of the Department the HOD is yang. 5 element are not dead object. Stars don't fly, it just change with time like our seasons, therefore we call it 气. Cheers.

Actually.........first basin is what sign? See water means water, really not my practice. Stove is fire, fire use to cook food. Like toilet bowl got water does that means its water ? Alot of room for discussion.

Can I ask if their is a space for us to stand in between the basin and stove, if not how to cook ?

Stars 1, 一白 - 人缘（桃花),智慧，五行水 Stars 2, 二黑 - 病符，孤寡，卑下，柔和， 五行土 Stars 3, 三碧 - 是非，争斗，官非，破财，生灾，五行木 Stars 4, 四绿 - 疯狂，负面桃花， 五行木 Stars 5, 五黄 - 病患，凶祸，孤寡，破财，死亡，五行土 Stars 6, 六白 - 官显, 权威, 名气, 驿马，变动, 五行金 Stars 7, 七赤 - 破耗，动盗, 五行金 Stars 8, 八白 - 君子，大利财, 地, 升级, 五行土 Stars 9, 九紫 - 喜庆，美艳，文明，人缘（桃花）, 五行火 These are basic representations of stars, it depends on how we use it.

Cookie, An object have a sitting and a facing, like we sit at chair we face table, in a typical scenario. Stars above, I like to use 卦气, to describe it. The map and sitting facing list is for finding the best sitting and facing position. For example sitting on 8 mountain stars face 3 water stars, 3 is wood and 8 is earth which is also the auspicious 卦气, and stove is fire, then you will have a 木生火，火生土 combination and stove we use it to cook, therefore is an element with life (活五行)。 This segment is not layman. Its already involving practical usage. As in how to super impose the star plate in the house hold, and how to find the 卦气 thats already very advance. This is the part where FS split into many different practices. Like Ivy says, can go on to never ending debate.

Cos 天机不可泄漏 。You wanna know where to put according to star plate map, you must know what is 物物一太极. Before you know what is 物物一太极, must understand 易学, before we understand 易学， must go back 4500 yrs chinese history. Thats where the basic of FS are. Wanna know then go find out, this world no free lunch one. Its already release to public how starplate map is being plot, no more secret or mystery, The most basic and most difficult part of FS is how to see everything as different signs. Five element is that easy to say, but five element with life is hard to do (活五行)。Element with life, is just yin yang + five element (阴阳加五行)。Must do until the element got life, no life is pointless. What is element with life? Example an ancient coin is pointless,dead and no one use it in modern days, a grandfather clock can move,make sound and we use it to tell time, is an element with life. Only yin and yang come together then there is life and yin and yang come together to create life. Everyday we using this theory, like husband and wife, everyday our body breathe, walk and talk,but everyday use yet dunno. These are all basic fundamental of FS. The most layman one.

Kali, One stay bankrupt does not mean u stay will be bankrupt, people different, timing different, outcome different. 2015 mrt link up confirm your property rise like nobody business. Congrats !

Its the same like taxi driver whining about politics, they go try they ma know lor, but I still cannot understand whats wrong with keeping house clean and tidy thou. If you think A is good try A method, if no good try B method, so on and so forth, but first we must know what is good and what is bad right ? So back to basic again. 1) We learn whats wrong or right, whats good or bad. 2) We filter it 3) We practice the right one and the good one and avoid the wrong and the bad one

True bro, Logically speaking only way to find out is, 1) Tilt our door and see what happen. 2) Go observe and find out those people tilted their door. But cannot ask, just quietly observe. The thing about "immediate impact" is things comes small small then roll to big big. So unless we sense the smallest impact. Impact is when things hit an object, big or small the impact, depends on how high the rock started rolling,

What is basic ?

Always like that one bro, once MRT open and link up your area, you huat already. Scare is places that is very hard to access lor.

Bro, I where got sarcastic to you, don't be too sensitive please. Seriously maintaining cleanliness will get into trouble ? When I say toilet bowl, it means toilet bowl, you say toilet of cos i have to highlight its toilet bowl. I dunno about your experience but I'm sharing mine, thats why I was hoping you share with us your findings on center toilet pipe leaking. People know how to choose one bro, no need special highlight. Some people like to use 八宅，杨公，奇门，玄空，大卦，you name it they have it....to me its ok, cos they have their theory and really it depends on their understanding. If I'm shaky then you don't take my tips, simple ? Its like giving u a list of FSM, you know who is good ? What is the real meaning of good in FS ? Like wealth, got in no out is it good ? Cheers.

Ohh ok taji and yun chun, soli soli. But 紫白 also see 甲子 right？