hey jelch and papaedmund 1) yea i did bargain and they just insisted on the price. maybe i am not so good at it. hahaha 2) now this is the part where it's screwed up. I got this so called "trust-able" mom's cousin to do the whole reno for my 3rm. He assure me again and again that he will let his sub-con quote me direct and will not earn a single cent. I tried trusting him bah, since my mom is confident that he wouldnt do anything funny. He kept pushing me to his in laws furniture shop at serangoon, saying its cheaper and better then ikea watsoever. I am not interested at all in those old school furniture. Then when it came to carpentry, i was shocked when he sent the owner of the furniture shop to quote for carpentry. few days later, quoted a ridiculous price of 8500 for this 3 item. 3)I am so angry and pissed all bcos i trusted this uncle, so much so that i didnt have any alternative quote and this is becoming a urgent job. anyways my other closer uncle had recommended another carpenter who quoted me 480(shoe cabinet) 640(oven cabinet) and 4000(island including solid surface). Think this is more reasonable - he just called me and offer 10% discount on all this. Hai, really regretted using this uncle, i spent about 35k for a 3rm and had to do design work, coordination and almost went down site everyday. I actually got a very good id willing to do all this for 30++k and best part is i dont have to do anything (other than choosing wat i like la). Really is a slap in the face, learnt so much about trusting "relative". sorry for rant, just really frustrated. all i want now is for my house to be ready next 2 weeks. Thank you for your advise. Kai