Hi, I'm a newbie to this forum, and from m'sia. I'm looking to buy an oven and after searching countless numbers of forums, nothing compares to the comprehensive thread here, so I hope you wont mind helping me out.. I've recently taken up baking, and decided to get a 'proper' oven since the (old) microwave convection oven i got kept blistering my pastries and undercooking my cookies. After reading through all 16 (! ) pages of this discussion thread, have finally shortlisted to 3 below: 1) Bosch HBN531E0B, which from the product description, seems identical to HBN331E2J. HBN531E0B - http://www.bosch-home.com/my/HBN531E0.html HBN331E2J - http://www.bosch-home.com.sg/HBN331E2J.html Anyone knows if this is the same? Or if i'm making a huge mistake? Biggest attraction is the 3D turbo function, which I'm assuming is convection baking? And also secondly, catalytic cleaners inside, but not 100% sure since this needs replacing after a few years? And also the price which is relatively cheap (MYR2390). 2) Bosch HBA23B250E - 23http://www.bosch-home.com.sg/HBA23B250E.html . But I'm not sure if this comes with convection function. It doesn't have the 3D turbo fan thing, but it says it has 'circulating air' - does anyone know what this means? Also any thoughts on the 'ecoclean' function? 3) Electrolux eob305x Plus points - big capacity, convection baking, auto-off timer, removable glass door. Minus, dont know know reliable it is, and read some reviews that it can be flimsy? It 'felt' flimsier than e.g. Teka or Bosch, but cld just be my lack of expertise. Any one with knowledge or experience of this? I'm a little confused though since model numbers seem to be different for a similar product and wondering if it's mainly a country distribution thing, or if it's actually totally different, and also quite sad that we dont seem to sell Brandt in m'sia since that comes highly recommended. Either way, and thoughts or ideas you have would be most appreciated! Esp from KM as you seem to be the guru with a lot of knowledge on ovens Thanks super super a lot. J