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As for the next one was wj888 This person DIDN'T even engage master chang and just put up a 'go along' post. But what makes me jump was he indicate my name. So I got to reply. Why I was so pissed was because he use 'vulgar' language in the presence of a lady. Thereafter, he didn't even reply at all......so ?

Next one was Springflower. This one I have contacted her. She even asked for other recommendation which I gave her a few names. Whether she later contacted them I don't know. Accordingly Springflower was a foriegner...don't know from where, had only a "personal consultation" with master chang. The complainant admitted took compass readings herself/himself. Admitted "may not be accurate". She also mentioned master chang reply slow. So in between what the consultation was about, was not revealed. No house audit done by master chang. She was also advised by chang not to have dogs but she didn't listen. So on the above does it constitute chang bad ? Was it she/he took wrong readings? Other than dogs, any other things she didn't follow....all these only she knew and nobody else.

The next one was dada_go. This complainant complained about unable to rear fish and dogs. In fact for dogs was offered a remedy on 'pure black' but also not acceptable. This one I have not contacted. As I deduce, if master chang were 'easy' on the job, he would have went along with the agreement to let them rear the pets....why the risk to piss off people? So this whole episode was again pre-audit dissatisfaction. Nothing to do with bad results.

Again as I said, I'm amazed at your effort to bring out these that I've mentioned. Let me go through one by one whether they deserve to be in the bad list collection. Also to all forumers, it is more fair to read the whole section of post/thread rather than picking out a single one. The above complainant dare not leave a name when being offered by other forumers to help. I tried kpo PM also but was also rudely chased off. (genuine ones usually share the front and back of the whole story). So base on the wordings without any other clarification, the 2 issues were about getting back to the complainant on time. And it didn't state how long? Yes, from what I gather from many forumers, often master chang don't pick up calls and commonly replied late. I guess there must be reasons behind which only he knew well.....guess too busy to pick up calls? Is that the reason why he didn't leave number in his website? Or maybe some other reason. Does that constitute his lack of competence or mastery of skills? All those clasified under my black list are those fsms after auditing people's house turn bad consequences and the fsm name appear at least a few times. I don't have a black list for people who are late.

Which post side him? Chang? you are so good at retracing posts, why don't you retrace mine.....is these 2 post only ones? I've been a long time forumer here and these few post called side him? There ar other forumers who also supported him, why don't you list out also. Anyway, what's wrong with supporting him, defending him whatever? Does relating people to FSM prick your nerve or actually you are one? Your keenness in spending so much time till 1.20am just to retrieve all these really amaze me and set me thinking on, the contrary what's your "agenda" behind the keyboard. I thought it was a simply complain against me for giving out blacklist and not the good. After I have explained....you still not satisfied and still continue to sidetrack to other issues....... I have heard from forumers of the good results from master chang. If I'm impressed and decided to speak out, that's my liberty. So the same goes to some forumers such as bepgof, kalimantan, bk888, edenstrauss, Lim etc and etc. Many of them defended or said something thier fsm when questioned. So Why don't you picked them out? Or the real fact is just because I give out the list and let me guess.....you are one of them in it?

Let me clear the air once more again.....I've been writing this again and again and again when asked by previous forumers....many post were not archived but deleted.....where there are always "New Z Dash".... you understand what I mean? Why there's no good list but bad ones: Some forumers can come out to verify for me (I hope), there are a period of about 2 months where I recommend at least 3 fsms when asked. When I got feedback that one fsm send his apprentice instead and another forumer whose problem was not solved the other fsm, I decided to not continue as this forumer was flooding my PM box with grieviences. Secondly, I personally also had bad experiences since I engaged a few fsms before. Many things happened which I've have described to many old forumers. So just because the posts were not archived or new forumers didn't surf and read....I got to explain and type all over again,,,,very tiring. Why Master Chang's name was not in the bad list Let me summarize all those post that I tried to refresh. a) One forumer complain that Master Chang was late b) A few complained that email him, never replied or take donkey days to reply c) One complain cannot rear fish....very fed up d) One complain cannot rear dogs....also make alot on noise e) One complain asked to put plants inside the room....got carbon dioxide f) One complained he didn't pick up calls g) One complain must renovate whole house, stove everything h) One complain he didn't include bazi i) One compare him with another I think even if I miss a few more....that's about it. Maybe you are new to feng shui or whatever, to be considered inside the bad list....do you think chang deserve it? Let me highlight a bit of those in the bad list what happen after their audit: 1) Family member died one after another 2) Family member got cancer 3) Wife got cyst 4) Wife got blood cyst 5) Guy for more than a year can't find job 6) Lost a lot in shares 7) Get into accidents 8) Children fell seriously ill 9) Children keep crying in the night 10) Paid thousands of dollars to buy ornaments I don't want to give any more credits to Chang for all that I've gathered and heard but not posted. All you need to do is PM those forumers for feedback you too can find out yourself. By then you will be also amaze that some forumers who appear sharing but also PM to other forumers fsm recommendation and contact number as well.

Yeah, ask him to visit fsm shops and see how their assistants and accomplice are surfing forums.....who knows maybe Z dash is one of the complexity....

I don't mind to be north korea.....nobody dare to touch me .....cos I have lady's privileges? You? taking on south korea or just being a bystander china?

Yeah, there are good ones. Not many though. I didn't say he's the best hor....so if some jump on you....I don't know you hor..... Scroll through the many past previous post and you'll find that there were many forumers posting on Chang. There are even more good feedbacks forumers shared with me through PM on Chang which their didn't post. Some of these people, if I didn't ask them, they also can't be bothered to feedback. Maybe just ask yourself a question, why other people who have engaged those I've listed, not many give good feedbacks or outcome about their audits or results? Unappreciative or results bad? Even if there are 'testimonials' , its all self written in their own websites......who can verify? Obviously, there are some concrete good points about Chang where there are specific descriptions of outcome. There were 2-3 forummers previously kept recommending thier fsm by PMs, how many forumers stand out to say good? You are a smart man....that's why you went laughing to the bank....I don't need to say further. If your fsm did wonders for you....you wouldn't be hunting for another here......

Yeah, already had enough from my boss this morn....as if not enough and never ending ......from these unappreciative people.

So why don't you pick one of those in the black list and see whether you get seriously ill or go bankrupt? (I'll be glad to include yours in the list) Again, am I oblige to reply your PMs when there are also so many PMs I haven't reply......mind you the PM box limited and many pms got to clear. Hey, I got a job to make a living and a boss to answer to (I'm not a Tai Tai that can surf wholeday) ......I'm doing this for leisure.....why don't you pay me a salary so that I can PM you this and that at the snap of your finger? As I said in previous post.......there are hundreds or even thousands of fsms that are not in the lists and some are also famous. Kalimantan also talked about his fsm openly....so its even more obvious he's his assistant? BK888 also recommended his fsm, so is he also taking commission? Bepgof gets a reply so fast from Chang, so are they related? Mace and Ahnah been recommending fsms........are they working together? Is there nothing better to do than to all jump at me this few days? Ok, coffeeman, you buy me an entrance fee to Sentosa casino this Sun and I'll pass the list of those names and contacts who had bad experience with your fsm. We can meet at the metal elephant.

Please read carefully: "Lee, Goh, Yang and so on and so on....." Did you ask me for the bad lists? Do you know other than on post request , how many people PM me for list privately......and I got to take time to type.....so again its my privilege if I miss out ......right?

As I said, this is my privilege. Was help to give lists consider work done? So who is paying me? If nobody pays me, please direct the canon elsewhere. That's all I meant! They are the surnames of fsm. Search the engine and they should pop out. I won't know who is good or bad as I haven't collect any feedback from people on their audits. Mine is base on repeated bad feedbacks that after their house audits, they lost jobs, lost money, fell seriously ill, accidents, paid extremely expensive $ for ornaments or some scams and etc........

It is normal behaviour and privilege of a lady. You were directing the question at me, didn't you? "Please open your eyes....." is simply a courteous way to tell someone to use common sense. These collections were through my chit chat with people and forumers over their house audit. I had my own bad experience and this is to share with people who they should watch out for. There are people, despite still went ahead. I have been repeating WHY I only provide the bad list in the post a few times already. New forumers don't surf and I got to explain again.....try doing that. In the past, I tried to be nice and recommended a few good ones (I think with little complains ) and in the end, some people blame me for the introduction. This is not my job.....so I don't guarantee....and for nothing I get all these.....those who only "got a mouth and stretch out your hands for food", why don't try recommending me instead. If its bad outcome, I won't only throw durains....... So I limit to a bad list. If people want goods ones, find themselves. Am I obliged? There are forumers who previously recommended also.....why don't you look for them? PLEASE scroll and surf previous posts.......

What are you trying to imply? As if I'm working for him or assistant or paid a commission? I'm not bepgof, ok. I don't just throw durians, so don't fan me. Please open your eyes, one click away and there are Jin, You, Luo, Choo, Chuan, Hoo, Koh, Shen, Lo, Lee, Goh, Yang and so on and so on. Even more just grab Lilian Too magazine with fsms who graduated and those from chinese newspaper. You can even get the hundreds of them from HongKong, Taiwan and Malaysia if you got the money to bring them in. All of them also paying me not to put their name in the bad lists? Really regret sometimes trying to be helpful to share...............

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If its for a 'place'.....better book cos limited .....if its for feng shui.....those place on top......descendents also suffering. Actual use for feng shui must use land.....good land

2nd level a. Got many ants....can buy from shop ants bait powder and they surely 'gone' for a few weeks. Will surely come back. So this will go on and on. b. Got cockcroaches 'flying' type.....eeeee.... best close windows at night and keep roach traps every 3months c. mosquitoes, can't do much about it as neighbors flower pots and congested drains, especially neighbourhood got new building site. Itchy season, just spray baygon 1 hr before sleep, close windows and use aircon. Very troublesome. Every now and then got to hunt for 'flying objects'.....good for eyesight. Sometimes at night, miss out spraying.....can her mosquito buzzing at your ear. d. Many different race of neighbours.....indians, malays, china workers......many friends to make from all over the world e. Many different kinds of smell too from neighbours as well as rubbish truck.......once herar the truck sound got to quickly dash to close windows otherwise the 'fragrant' will linger for some time. f. children keep throwing things down, all the ledges are feeled with heavenly gifts g. slippers always gone.....it can walk by itself h. heat is terrible i. children play football at void cause a lot of noise j. cars passed by, a lot of horning and motorbike testing. k. neighbour bungee jump.....can see very clearly blood and white juicy substance Feng Shui at 2nd level good or bad a. My grandmother stayed at 2nd level, my uncles and aunties who used to stay there became 'somebody' before they shift out. b. My collegue's husband stayed 2nd level.....owned 2 cars, do a few business....her diamond ring is bigger than mine. c. My father's old neighbour shifted to 2nd level.....son in law lost more than a $100k in shares. I think void deck or no void deck.....depends on many other issues.....

This one as I understand is base on 三元九运, more for flying stars application. If base on this method, now is period 8 which is the first 20years of 8,9,1. Relevant or not depend on the master liao..... heard some use 2 Eras instead.

Waa.....sounds like you have experienced before.....yeah true about guardian hor, but still can't figure out exactly.....from where, which religion or what energy.... Some said certain masters head glow....is it the guardian glowing instead? Know or not? I think toddler is commonly heard one but feel sorry to use them....dogs should be a good one.

Buy a book from Joey Yap better.

Yeahhhh, all the same old stuffs from these money faced people. Same LT, YKY (appear together most)....ends up potential books to buy laa.... courses to attend laaa....ornaments to purchase laaaa.....and you pay the amount (like concert) looking at them onstage like 四大天王

What I meant was Chang's method or template because all methods and techniques are equally available out there. It is the person who is able to effectively use it or produce results. I definitely believe he has this 'template'. There were much hearsay on Hong Quan after his death. Personally, other than the Hyatt story, there's nothing much concrete about his contribution to fengshui on the common people. While for certain masters, I kept hearing from actual experience of people time after time, day in day out. Bruce Lee's death has become a legend but comparatively, i think the continuance contribution of Jacky Chan is greater.

I had attended some of these courses and the truth is that each class or modules will prolong and link to more and more so called higher or advance classes which ultimately.....which I realise now is a 'scam' just digging money out from my poor pockets. Which now I believe, a true knowledgeable master does not go for this kind of technique to earn money. In fact I would simply conclude that this is just a classroom on language translation......mostly. If you can read chinese, you can actually get these books at a fraction of the cost. The only problem is that you are on your own and wrong interpretation....that's it!! In the market, frankly, one worth mentioning is master chang. I actually enquired whether there were classes conducted by him last year. He said he doesn't teach classes. On probing further, he clarified that his principle is not to allow working effective feng shui skills end up in the wrong hands or people with evil intent. No fees charge at all from apprenticeship but he selects through one's bazi. Mine didn't qualify.....so I'm still floating around.....in knowledge.

This is base on Joey's cosmic trinity theology. What I'm asking : "Is there any Chinese classic scriptures to substantiate?". Please take note that Joey Yap shoot out from Yap Cheng Hai.....while trying to break away from this link and opposing Lilian, some of his writeups also have some slips and contradictions.