Went to the shop recommended by my ID last weekend and was going through their lights. Quoted me about $80 per downlight, 12w, made in taiwan. Supposedly good etc etc. But while going on my rounds along balestier another day, i realise that most of the shops have the led lights at a wide price range, can be from $20-70, some made in china, some taiwan, some with dimmer and some without. Though of saving myself the hassle and just get it from the Shop and not risk the "trouble", as the supply and install are from the ID source. but the price seems to be on the high side. However, i was told that for LED with dimmer, it requires a better driver that will cost about $100 or more. Is it true? coz the one quoted by my ID's recommendation was with dimmer. Totally confused. Rest of the lights are not so bad, coz i'm going by feel, what i like or not like, but LED downlights looks so simlar to me.. Generally based on the other lights, i managed to see the same lights offered about $10-20 difference for a $200-400 light.